AMD are rumoured to have only 16,000 RX Vega GPUs available at launch

I can see this being another Fury X disaster if this is true, I hope the performance is better than the Fury X was at the time though.
 
16000 is a tiny number of gpus. For a company with a global customer base that leaves very few per region. I highly doubt that this is true, it would be more embarrassing for amd to be this ludicrously under supplied than to have nothing at all.
 
It is situations like these that Jerry Sanders was hoping to avoid when he launched AMD's pursuit to establish Wafer Fabrication Facilities.

Too bad Sanders got AMD in over its head on this matter. As for the AMD Users there is little that can be done about the situation. Grin and bear it.
 
They did it with Ryzen boards and survived.

Surviving is one thing, making money is an entirely different matter.

The question is will we have to go through this every time AMD presents a new product for launch ?

Will this scenario be repeated for Naples and Zen+ ?
 
It's not though?...

From day one that is what it was. Unless there are more than just that one then that is what it is. It's hype that has slowly built it up to being something more than just a 1070 competitor.

However, on paper as penned out by AMD that is what Vega basically equates to.

Only time will tell on this one.
 
If this is true, surely there can't be a 2017 release for Volta?

If that were the case we would not have got Pascal. Nvidia have been out in front since the 980Ti and had no real reason to release Pascal, especially the big Pascals. They could have sat on the 1080 and it would still be top dog, yet they have released two Pascal Titans and a 1080Ti. They may even squeeze another launch out of Pascal TBH.

But yeah, like Intel Nvidia seem to be rolling on for extra payday no matter what really.
 
Ah yes lets put out silly lies to oil the hype machine. We've heard that one before with the release of Fury X (which was limited, yet they managed to fix their delivery issues early)
 
Ah yes lets put out silly lies to oil the hype machine. We've heard that one before with the release of Fury X (which was limited, yet they managed to fix their delivery issues early)

They didn't fix their delivery issues. No one bought them, that is why the second batch remained in stock.

They were available for about a week in the UK, OCUK had like 4 of each brand. Then those sold out and they had 9 of each brand in stock for months and months. Every one bought the 980Ti.

Fury X are quite rare cards really. In the end they were sold off cheap (like the recent deals on the Fury for example) but yeah, they were never available in massive numbers (according to Gibbo on OCUK who runs their sales dept).
 
From day one that is what it was. Unless there are more than just that one then that is what it is. It's hype that has slowly built it up to being something more than just a 1070 competitor.

However, on paper as penned out by AMD that is what Vega basically equates to.

Only time will tell on this one.

Not quite sure where you're pulling this from? As far as I was aware the only numbers we actually have on Vega are what was leaked through the Linux driver. Which all things considered doesn't even tell us that much because it's a new architecture.
 
If that were the case we would not have got Pascal. Nvidia have been out in front since the 980Ti and had no real reason to release Pascal, especially the big Pascals. They could have sat on the 1080 and it would still be top dog, yet they have released two Pascal Titans and a 1080Ti. They may even squeeze another launch out of Pascal TBH.

Sorry, I meant "proper Volta" with HBM2. Pretty sure they will just release a GDDR5x Volta variant if they can't secure enough of a supply of HBM2 for comsumer cards.
 
Not quite sure where you're pulling this from? As far as I was aware the only numbers we actually have on Vega are what was leaked through the Linux driver. Which all things considered doesn't even tell us that much because it's a new architecture.

Unless AMD went back to the drawing board and completely ditched their existing technology, then shrouded the entire thing in secrecy (like they did with Ryzen) then it is always possible to predict next gen performance by simply doing the correct maths.

One thing known about Vega was the die size etc and range of cores it would have. Take this (and other bits and bobs like HBM2) and it is possible to roughly pen out how it *should* perform.

Then you take the logic that nearly everything touted about a CPU/GPU is BS pre launch *but* some of it is always spot on and you have the truth hidden in there somewhere.

I've not just been saying this for a few days. I have been saying this to you guys on this forum for months and months. Vega will be similar to a 1070.

Now from what I am hearing there are going to be three SKUs for Vega. However, even that is not known to be true yet so it could just be one, like the Fury X, which was then used to make three cards (Fury, Nano & Fury X). All three were hardly any better than each other, Nano just sucked for throttling so needed water.

So my prediction is still the same. Vega will perform somewhere between a 1070 and maybe as high as a 1080. Unless AMD are hiding anything up their sleeve then that will be Vega.

But this recent notion that Vega will be as fast as a 1080Ti is just nonsense. That, I can promise you, *IS* all BS created by the Hype Train (tm).
 
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Unless AMD went back to the drawing board and completely ditched their existing technology, then shrouded the entire thing in secrecy (like they did with Ryzen) then it is always possible to predict next gen performance by simply doing the correct maths.

One thing known about Vega was the die size etc and range of cores it would have. Take this (and other bits and bobs like HBM2) and it is possible to roughly pen out how it *should* perform.

Then you take the logic that nearly everything touted about a CPU/GPU is BS pre launch *but* some of it is always spot on and you have the truth hidden in there somewhere.

I've not just been saying this for a few days. I have been saying this to you guys on this forum for months and months. Vega will be similar to a 1070.

Now from what I am hearing there are going to be three SKUs for Vega. However, even that is not known to be true yet so it could just be one, like the Fury X, which was then used to make three cards (Fury, Nano & Fury X). All three were hardly any better than each other, Nano just sucked for throttling so needed water.

So my prediction is still the same. Vega will perform somewhere between a 1070 and maybe as high as a 1080. Unless AMD are hiding anything up their sleeve then that will be Vega.

But this recent notion that Vega will be as fast as a 1080Ti is just nonsense. That, I can promise you, *IS* all BS created by the Hype Train (tm).

Well according to Don Woligroski from AMD in an AMA session on Toms Hardware -

Vega performance compared to the Geforce GTX 1080 Ti and the Titan Xp looks really nice.

So either he's vastly over exaggerating, He means for the price point it looks nice compared to those 2 or he's telling it like it is.
 
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