AMD are rumoured to be shipping Vega silicon to their AIB partners this week

That is fine with me August is around the time that I will be finishing my current and final semester of community college so assuming Vega isn't a complete failure I think I'll buy Vega as a graduation present.
 
Hype isnt that great anyway, often leads to dissapointment, if they get good performance for a better price then nvidia and it keeps them in the game, it's a good thing, only time will tell
 
And all the silence makes me feel like they've not got anything special. Plus the price of the Frontier Edition frightens me.
 
This reminds me of the build up to bulldozer... Lots of hype, very little actual information and what felt like a late release. Let's just hope that the performance when it does come out doesn't reflect that of bulldozer.
 
Some disputed Nvidia decision to throw out 1080Ti in time they did. It turned out to be the move of the year. Vega train has left, all the people got bored and got themselves a 1080Ti. Too bad for AMD. Another bad decision it the line of many.
 
AngryGoldfish said:
And all the silence makes me feel like they've not got anything special. Plus the price of the Frontier Edition frightens me.
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Kleptobot said:
This reminds me of the build up to bulldozer... Lots of hype, very little actual information and what felt like a late release. Let's just hope that the performance when it does come out doesn't reflect that of bulldozer.
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Avet said:
Some disputed Nvidia decision to throw out 1080Ti in time they did. It turned out to be the move of the year. Vega train has left, all the people got bored and got themselves a 1080Ti. Too bad for AMD. Another bad decision it the line of many.
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Yup, I totally agree with everyone. The Vega hype has been going on for way too long now and I've gotten fed up with it.

Like Goldfish said, all this silence makes an uncomfortable feeling that they haven't gotten anything special with Vega. I mean, and please correct me if this is wrong, but wasn't this the opposite case with Ryzen? It wasn't all this silence around Ryzen and it turned out to be quite the thing.

They've waited too long with Vega, got too much hype built up around it, that everyone has gotten fed up with it and gone 1080Ti or lower. Nice to see you shoot yourselfs in the foot AMD (again), too bad you couldn't (learn how to) handle the gun correctly though.
 
Chrazey said:
Yup, I totally agree with everyone. The Vega hype has been going on for way too long now and I've gotten fed up with it.

Like Goldfish said, all this silence makes an uncomfortable feeling that they haven't gotten anything special with Vega. I mean, and please correct me if this is wrong, but wasn't this the opposite case with Ryzen? It wasn't all this silence around Ryzen and it turned out to be quite the thing.

They've waited too long with Vega, got too much hype built up around it, that everyone has gotten fed up with it and gone 1080Ti or lower. Nice to see you shoot yourselfs in the foot AMD (again), too bad you couldn't (learn how to) handle the gun correctly though.
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They already signed a deal with the devil (Apple). That is why it is delayed. They are busy making Frontier and cores for Apple to put in their new pro Imac things.

That may say an awful lot for performance tbh. Maybe they know it's not so good so would rather keep it away from the public and let Apple use it?
 
NeverBackDown said:
That price isn't reflective of what Vega will actually cost. That's a whole different market.
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But what else is different about it other than the 16GB of HBM2? We don't even know why the WC version is $600 more expensive than the air cooled version. Are they charging $1200 for Vega Frontier just because "that's a whole different market" or because that's what the GPU costs to sell at a reasonable profit? If they can charge $550 for RX Vega (or whatever price it's going to be) for the gaming market, and it's the same as the FE with 8GB of HBM2 instead of 16GB, why are they charging almost three times that amount for the gold Frontier Edition?

You know what, I shouldn't expect anything else. Economics suggests that if a market is willing to pay $1800 for a GPU even though it can be sold for $500-700 to more wallet restricted gamers then that's what AMD will do.
 
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But what else is different about it other than the 16GB of HBM2? We don't even know why the WC version is $600 more expensive than the air cooled version. Are they charging $1200 for Vega Frontier just because "that's a whole different market" or because that's what the GPU costs to sell at a reasonable profit? If they can charge $550 for RX Vega (or whatever price it's going to be) for the gaming market, and it's the same as the FE with 8GB of HBM2 instead of 16GB, why are they charging almost three times that amount for the gold Frontier Edition?

You know what, I shouldn't expect anything else. Economics suggests that if a market is willing to pay $1800 for a GPU even though it can be sold for $500-700 to more wallet restricted gamers then that's what AMD will do.
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Because the Frontier edition is a professional card and will come with professional drivers dude. That means 24/7 support etc. It's the same with Quadro, Tesla etc.

Edit. Sorry, used the D word..
 
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Because the Frontier edition is a professional card and will come with professional drivers dude. That means 24/7 support etc. It's the same with Quadro, Tesla etc.
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Is that what these companies pay extra for? I guess it makes sense. I didn't think of that.
 
AngryGoldfish said:
Is that what these companies pay extra for? I guess it makes sense. I didn't think of that.
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Yes mate. That's why something like the GT210 which we would pay £28 for costs like £500.

Round the clock support, better drivers etc. I remember a time where us guys were hacking the Quadro drivers to work with the GTX 470 (Hmm and myself did it haha) because the 470 drivers were busted :D
 
I have to agree with the sentiments here AMD were stupid to faff about with HBM2 when they knew how long it would be delayed for they should have bitten the bullet and gone with DDR5x and released their cards already, too little too late me thinks
 
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