AMD are rumoured to be creating a consumer-oriented 16-core Ryzen CPU

[WYP]

AMD are rumoured to be creating a consumer-oriented 16-core Ryzen CPU, coming on a larger LGA socket and support for quad-channel memory.



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[NeverBackDown]

Doubt this will happen. Especially a "revised" Zen core? Yeah BS on that

 

[Bartacus]

NBD: agreed! Also, didn't AMD already confirm that the AM4 platform would last for a few years, with no new sockets? I know I read that somewhere, but not sure it was the "official" word.

 

[Kaapstad]

The 10 core 6950X is a better overclocker than any of the Ryzen CPUs, AMD need to address this first before even thinking about a 16 core consumer CPU.

What would a 16 core Ryzen CPU run at, 2.5ghz?

 

[AngryGoldfish]

This seems highly unlikely and a bit incredible. The leaked dialogue is written convincingly, but calling it X399 and it having none of the issues of current Ryzen seems a little hard to believe, especially that it's going to be unveiled at Computex.

 

[Thelosouvlakia]

The only thing that will come out from AMD and will be on LGA will be their server CPU.

 

[dihartnell]

This doesn t make any sense at all. Ryzen R7 is already competing handily with HEDT, as will the ZEN2 versions next year.

 

[NeverBackDown]

NBD: agreed! Also, didn't AMD already confirm that the AM4 platform would last for a few years, with no new sockets? I know I read that somewhere, but not sure it was the "official" word.

You are right yes. No new sockets. They could update the chipset and keep same socket but Ryzen is at minimum a 4year commitment they said. Or 5 years? Can't remember which it was

 

[AngryGoldfish]

People are complaining about a lack of quad channel memory though. I don't see it being a problem considering Ryzen is AMD's proclamation to consumers that HEDT systems don't have to cost €1500 for just CPU, motherboard, and RAM.

 

[NeverBackDown]

There's no benefit using Quad Channel anyway. You're bandwidth doesn't go up, it does in the theoretical sense because you have two more sticks, but the real world impact is virtually 0. You just get more capacity potential really is just it.
I would probably rather have dual channel, less strain on the CPU which means higher speeds, which would give an actual boost to performance.

 

[Doomslayer]

This is what they should have been doing from the start AMD should be getting 3rd parties making E-ATX motherboards and then comparing the 1800X or whatever to the 6800/6900K.

Also NOT telling YouTube reviews to turn of Quad Channel memory and under clocking their 2011-3 CPU's.

 

[NeverBackDown]

This is what they should have been doing from the start AMD should be getting 3rd parties making E-ATX motherboards and then comparing the 1800X or whatever to the 6800/6900K.

Also NOT telling YouTube reviews to turn of Quad Channel memory and under clocking their 2011-3 CPU's.

Quad channel doesn't change anything anyway. Doesn't matter

 

[AngryGoldfish]

There's no benefit using Quad Channel anyway. You're bandwidth doesn't go up, it does in the theoretical sense because you have two more sticks, but the real world impact is virtually 0. You just get more capacity potential really is just it.
I would probably rather have dual channel, less strain on the CPU which means higher speeds, which would give an actual boost to performance.

Yeah, the people that are complaining about a lack of quad channel memory are a minority and likely mistakenly feel they need it.

 

[Bartacus]

Quad channel might matter at the enterprise level, but not the consumer level.

 

[Doomslayer]

#QuadChannelMemoryMasterRace

 

[KTM_RULZ]

The 10 core 6950X is a better overclocker than any of the Ryzen CPUs, AMD need to address this first before even thinking about a 16 core consumer CPU.

What would a 16 core Ryzen CPU run at, 2.5ghz?

I don't think that Ryzen cpus will ever be great overclockers. L3 cache doesn't have its own multiplier and I'm not sure that fabric thing between CCXs can handle overclock any better.

 

[Wraith]

The 10 core 6950X is a better overclocker than any of the Ryzen CPUs, AMD need to address this first before even thinking about a 16 core consumer CPU.

What would a 16 core Ryzen CPU run at, 2.5ghz?

^^All of this, they have a good line up so far and should concentrate on that not throw more cores at the problem. #moarcoresfixesnothing

 

[AlienALX]

^^All of this, they have a good line up so far and should concentrate on that not throw more cores at the problem. #moarcoresfixesnothing

If this is true and I highly doubt it for reasons given (AMD changing sockets etc) then they would be forward thinking again. And they've gotten themselves into trouble every time they have done that.

However, that said we do need to move forward. If they can get 8 cores supported properly (and they're working at it) then the next progression will be more cores of course. Because IPC becomes tight, and at the end of the day the only way to move on from Moore's law is to add more cores.

People only think the idea of 16 cores is stupid because they have been on 2/4 for a decade. Why do servers have 64 cores (as an example)? because it makes them more productive. There is no reason other than Intel that desktop PCs could do the same.

 

[Wraith]

Yes but servers are also generally kept in racks cooled by industrial fans or have cold storage rooms so cold an eskimo would feel right at home, AMD have come on leaps and bounds and been planning this for the last 4 years putting the software in place first essentially paving their way to this moment. Next thing they need to do is further improve the IPC and frequencies also maybe work on a clearer way to indicate thermal readings.

 

[AlienALX]

Yes but servers are also generally kept in racks cooled by industrial fans or have cold storage rooms so cold an eskimo would feel right at home, AMD have come on leaps and bounds and been planning this for the last 4 years putting the software in place first essentially paving their way to this moment. Next thing they need to do is further improve the IPC and frequencies also maybe work on a clearer way to indicate thermal readings.

Our old server room at the call centre I worked at had a small cupboard about 6ftx2ft. In the wall they had three air conditioners that were in the wall going straight outside.

However, as NM and heat drops (not on OC chips of course) AIOs are proving quite popular in Server Land.

I'm super interested to find out what sort of temps/power use these 32 core Zens will have.