WYP
News Guru
AMD has announced plans to release next-generation CPU and CPU architectures on a 7nm FinFET manufacturing process.
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AMD announces plans to release Navi and Zen 2 on 7nm
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NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Take that Volta and your 12nm Design!
Jokes aside, if they plan on 7nm I don't expect anything new until late Q2 at the earliest and probably a mid Q3 launch as likely. Considering 7nm from GloFo isn't supposed to hit volume production until Q1 sometime. Unless they go Samsung who I think is supposed to start this year? Don't remember what it was.
Jokes aside, if they plan on 7nm I don't expect anything new until late Q2 at the earliest and probably a mid Q3 launch as likely. Considering 7nm from GloFo isn't supposed to hit volume production until Q1 sometime. Unless they go Samsung who I think is supposed to start this year? Don't remember what it was.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
ALL the Ryzen CPUs/APUs launching this year are on the same 14nm process.
Next year with Zen 2 CPUs/APUs, they will be on a 7nm process. Don't be sorry for asking a question, sometimes it's confusing
ALL the Ryzen CPUs/APUs launching this year are on the same 14nm process.
Next year with Zen 2 CPUs/APUs, they will be on a 7nm process. Don't be sorry for asking a question, sometimes it's confusing
Thank you. Yea looking at their roadmap chart it's hard to tell if Zen 2 is a 2018 or 2019 launch.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
A process shrink should help tremendously with Zen. Vega 20 was rumoured to be on the 7nm process as well next year. It could be a Vega 10 GPU shrunk down with a massive boost in clock speeds. Maybe we'll see the first 2Ghz AMD GPU.
AlienALX
Well-known member
Yup. Wondering now if that is when they plan to unleash the 32/64 beast I've heard rumours about.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Yeah, 'cause Vega is still supposed to compete with Volta so AMD will need to refresh Vega if they want to remain competitive at the top. Otherwise the whole 1080/Fury X thing will happen all over again. Navi could then introduce a Polaris replacement in Q3 2018 and big Navi could then come Q2 2019 and replace Vega fully.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
Will be interesting if they keep to their word "We're supporting the AM4 socket until 2020".
Would be cool to keep the Crosshair VI and drop in a Zen+ CPU.
Would be cool to keep the Crosshair VI and drop in a Zen+ CPU.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Well they could technically support it but release a new socket. Just release AGESA and driver updates till then... they wouldn't be lying
But I am 90% sure they mean Zen architecture based CPUs are going to be supported on AM4. I would kinda hope AM4 as a socket is kept, obvious reasons, but I sure do hope they at least update chipsets to keep up with I/O(like more NVMe or USB Gen 4 or whatever)
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Well they could technically support it but release a new socket. Just release AGESA and driver updates till then... they wouldn't be lying
But I am 90% sure they mean Zen architecture based CPUs are going to be supported on AM4. I would kinda hope AM4 as a socket is kept, obvious reasons, but I sure do hope they at least update chipsets to keep up with I/O(like more NVMe or USB Gen 4 or whatever)
Don't you mean they'd release a new chipset?
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
What? I said that lol
If you are talking about the first thing I said, then no I meant what I said.
If they supported AM4(the socket/platform is called AM4) till 2020, but released a new socket called AM5 for example, but still made efforts to support AM4, is technically supporting it. Just not the way everyone is thinking by what they meant. So they wouldn't be lying per say, but the way they mean it is that Zen is staying on AM4 and they are not pulling an Intel move with a new socket every year.
I'll explain the 2nd part better.
I am hopeful they keep AM4. But update the chipset. Like X470/B450/X400. New I/O should be supported and say PCI Express 4.0 should be supported as well in the future.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Oh, I get you now. I thought you were saying you could just update the BIOS of the AM4 socket to become a new socket, which makes no sense.
I actually never thought that's what AMD meant, but it is possible that they intend to replace the socket within a few years but continue to 'support' AM4.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
Well they could technically support it but release a new socket. Just release AGESA and driver updates till then... they wouldn't be lying
But I am 90% sure they mean Zen architecture based CPUs are going to be supported on AM4. I would kinda hope AM4 as a socket is kept, obvious reasons, but I sure do hope they at least update chipsets to keep up with I/O(like more NVMe or USB Gen 4 or whatever)
Well I don't really care about more features like more NVME slots, Wifi etc... but it would be nice if I could keep my current mobo and just plop in Zen+ next year
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Well I don't really care about more features like more NVME slots, Wifi etc... but it would be nice if I could keep my current mobo and just plop in Zen+ next year
Unless some big new technology comes out next year or so that's absolutely amazing, I'm really quite happy with the AM4/X370/B350/etc motherboard. I prefer Intel's multiple m.2 slots, because the less cables I have in my case the better, but that's really not a deal breaker, and there are X370 motherboards with more than one m.2 slot.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Well I don't really care about more features like more NVME slots, Wifi etc... but it would be nice if I could keep my current mobo and just plop in Zen+ next year
I don't either. But I think the newer boards that will come out will be way ahead in terms of quality. Instead of being used as beta testers as tom calls it. I just feel they are going to be very solid since Ryzen has proved to be a success.
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