1st team

[Oxo]

i think we need to sort ourselves out, we say we wana move on as a team, and have shown if we practice for a week or a map we can be a confortable mid+ mid high, but this isnt guna work if its once a week every month, so we can either start bieng a bit more commited, which would include recruting, as were desperate for players, and a caller, or just not bother and go back to playin easy pcw's and not goin anywhere.

wot do ya guys wana do?

 

[llwyd]

Well i currently have no net at home due to a storm but I will play every chance we get tbh

 

[Oxo]

ye thas kool mate, cant be helped, but having a roster of 5 makes playing reguarly near on impossible thanks to these kinds of situations, so recruiting is a must asap, and chating to ins last night, he would much prefer just to play rarther than call, which is fair enuf, but we need to do this sooner rarther than later

 

[llwyd]

Well if we get enough training in there will be next to no need to call. Look at us as T on D2, as long as we're not playing someone a fair bit better than us we just do our first three rounds then pick.

If we just decide on three solid starting round tactics, rotations and then just name some tactics that we can call mid round or if the other team have a strength / weakness

 

[[Ins]]

We'll never get good by having a large team because the tactics will get lost. This is why I suggested having 6-7 players max. We can recruit, but I really don't want to start again with the tactics in sitting people through it and making sure they listen.

Bottom line is that I want to play, but I really want to stop calling if possible. I'm getting frustrated because recently when I've called, the team has not done the tactic. A few times I've said "ok, rush this site and get in" to find that some people are holding back having a gun fight elsewhere, or that only two of us are in the site and the rest are all back doing something else, or even people saying "ok but I'm just going here" and not rushing with the team.

There's no point in me calling if the team can't do basic rushes, which we've really struggled with recently. I don't know what the answer is because I obviously cannot get the team to perform in the way it should do.

I'd therefore suggest either nominating someone else to call, or have a look at re-organsing the team. I'm happy to play when needed but I just get the feeling at the moment, games are dependant on me being there. It was only the other night where everyone was sitting about and only got a game when I came onto TS. Everyone has IRC, you know the channels to go to and I'm sure if you're only one person down, you can get a B team member in to play?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not having a rant, but I don't want the A team depending on me to be around to arrange games and getting tactics working. You know the drill on nearly all the maps now, so you can practice these without me.

If you still feel the need to recruit, then please do so. But if this is the case, you'll need to sit down with these new recruits and show them the tactics again, which believe me is harder than it seems. Showing them is one thing, getting them to do them and play as a "team" is another!

 

[Oxo]

what im saying about the roster is having 6-7 that no our tactics etc, cus ye u r rite, if were a player short we can grab a B teamer, but im sure they would have there own teams tactics of playing it, and against the higher clans, we all no tactics can be more important than aim, so my preferance would be to getin 2 players (not sure wot the deal is with skank and nads?) and get them settled into how we play, i agree with u aswel llwyd that apart from maybe 2-3 diffrent kinds of rushes, then we manly pick, if we can have a commited roster of 6-7 i think that would help us alot

 

[!TIMMY!]

Us B teamers would be happy to sub in, but at the moment were concentrating on getting our team sorted.

 

[jiffz]

Fair play to you Ins for putting in the work to get the A team sorted. Really appreciate it and I'm sure the rest of the clan do as well. Imo I think your a good leader/caller and put confidence into the team when playing.

It would be awesome if we could keep it that way, but obviously tactics havn't been followed propely and that can get frustrating :banghead:. I don't know exactly what was going on but I'd put this down to not being able to practice with the same team everytime.

Looking at the A team roster I don't see enough players - Ins, Oxo, Llwyd, Xms, Tom (who can't play 24/7 and will be off to Uni soon anyway). Tangy + Timmy can't be dedicated 1st teamers as they are helping out the 2nd team. To get stuck in on ED you would need extra players. There was talk about Nads + Skank. If you could add them to your roster, it would solve both problems - They have a lot more experience with you and behave as you expect, this will also set an example on exactly how to follow orders, more members available for practices and make sure we have enough cover for ED matches.

As said, it's not right that Ins has to be about for a match to take place. It would help him out a lot to have a secondary leader - I'd suggest either Oxo or Llwyd as you are about lot, have experience and are always willing to push the clan further. I started doing this with Dave and it takes the weight off the main leader and doesn't mean the team is dependant on 1 person being around.

Sorry for going on a bit there and I hope there is no offence taken by anyone, but obviously something needs doing in order to succeed at ED. So to go over it again:

1) Can we add 2 extra players that don't need too much training (Nads/Skank...)?

2) Who is going to start helping out Ins by being the secondary leader?

 

[Ham]

;148554'']I'm getting frustrated because recently when I've called, the team has not done the tactic. A few times I've said "ok, rush this site and get in" to find that some people are holding back having a gun fight elsewhere, or that only two of us are in the site and the rest are all back doing something else, or even people saying "ok but I'm just going here" and not rushing with the team.

I know that feeling all too bloody well...

 

[llwyd]

Well to be fair we have only really played like 4 games as a team. I say we bring in nads and/or skank as proposed and then just get the hours in. I would be happy to lead but I wouldnt feel comfotable calling tactics untill we have played a bit more

 

[Oxo]

had a small chat to ins last night and he sad both nads and skank are still intrested, so i say we keep going along as we are, then when there ready we reshufle and really start moving on

 

[llwyd]

Yea that'd be great. A lot of the problems in matches so far (like not rushing properly and stuff) is, i think, from mixing with other teams who are not organised and usually slightly lower skilled. As the first team are not around often, I tend to play with the B team and friends of the Bteam, which is fun n all but has ruined my sense of teamwork and trust, just need a game or two with some solid tactics and we'll be raring to go.

Also I think we're back active in ED, so maybe we could organise some matches at our own point level for practice

 

[!TIMMY!]

thats a good idea! Get on it