1st Build what GPU ?

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kaney

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Hi All !

Joined the forum yesterday but have watched countless you tube vids of TTL, who has inspired me into my first build of a Gaming Rig. Christ I may even call my first build 'LOGAN'

Posted a few comments yesterday in the Introductions area and was warmly welcomed into the fold and was also give some great advise to boot !

**BUT STILL I AM IN A QUANDARY WITH MY GPU !!?? **

To all who can help advise and 'OC3D ELITE' status I would really value your opinion, so far my build is as follows:-

My build so far is as follow:-

1. CASE Cosair Special Edition Graphite Series 600TSE White
2. POWER SUPPLY Corsair CMPSU-850AXUK Professional Series Gold 850W
3. CPU COOLER Corsair CWCH100 Hydro Series H100 Extreme
4. CORSAIR FANS x2 120mm x2 SP in the H100 (exhausting out top through H100 RAD) with 120mm x1 AF in back of Case (exhausting out back) I still have the 200m stock fan in the front I want to change this but not sure what to yet (any advise??)
5. CPU Intel BX80619I73930K Core i7-3930K 6-Core Processor (3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo), Socket 2011, 12MB L3 Cache, Turbo Boost 2.0)
6. MOTHERBOARD Asus Rampage IV Extreme/BF3 Motherboard (Socket 2011, Intel X79, DDR3, Extended ATX, USB 3.0
7. RAM Corsair 8GB (2x 4G DOMINATOR Platinum Memory Kit 2133MHz (I will probably max this through all the dim slots to be 32G.

I am yet to buy SSD Drives probably Corsair Force GT 90gb for system and another just for games etc

BUT THE BIG ONE FOR ME IS THE GPU !!???
I have been looking at GTX680s (probably Palit GTX 680 Jetstream Edition 4GB) what do you think ?
I was given good savvy advise yesterday from some of OC3D member and all is very welcome as I am just learning on the job here, but do want my build to be as good as my budget will allow and a little future proofed too, well as much as it can be !!

If money was no object what would you do? a GTX690 possibly a 680 ! or count your losses and look at the GTX670 as you could OC this to around the 680 marque anyway !

What GPU would you maybe recommend to compliment the rest of my system build !

Many thanks

KANEY !
 
I had just typed up a massive response to this, but because the thread was moved it all got deleted.
I'll be back in 5 minutes; I need to go punch my cats.

Ok. Pets successfully bludgeoned.
There's a lot of money to be saved here :)

I'm working under the assumption that this is a gaming only orientated system, and that no video editing or the like shall be done.
Because of this, you really only need an i5, such as the 3570k. Games these days barely utilise all 4 cores of the i5, let alone the 12 threads of the 3930k - it's just useless.
The RAM you have bought is beautiful (I do love the Platinum series), but it is overpriced due to the unecessary speed. 1600MHz is the sweet spot as it's cheap, and it offers great performance - performance which is barely overtaken by the faster 2133MHz speeds.
As for the SSDs, the Corsairs are great, but there are also some others to consider. Crucial offer the best reliability for all SSDs, are cheap, and are great performers.

If money was no object, I would probably go for a MSI GTX680 Lightning - balls to the wall kind of thing. However, back to reality for a little bit and the GTX670 is a much better option.
 
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Was I the member you're referring to? :)

Still say 670 - add another for SLI if you want more performance, whether that's after 2 days or 2 years. I'd never advise going in at the deep end and getting the best possible card straight away. The 670s are better than the 680s anyway (in some tests) and 2 670s are better and cheaper than a 690
 
My question to you is: What is this rig going to be used for?

That is the question we typically ask when it is not specified in the OP :)

If it's just for gaming, most of us will recommend the 3570k and a suitable board. I'm not too familiar with the Z77 boards so I can't recommend one personally. If on the other hand you will be doing a lot of video/photo editing/rendering than the 3930k would hold its own.

If you're only going to be using one monitor, than a single 2GB 670 would suffice and as a result you could save a bit of money on the PSU and grab a 650/750W AX PSU. Even if you'll be trying your hand at multi-monitor gaming a 2GB 670 should be fine, but I would personally grab the 4GB variant for peace of mind.

As for the SSD, the Crucial drives are known to be the most reliable (lowest failure/return rate) so an M4 would be an ideal drive. Scrap the 90GB drive and go for a 120/128 GB drive, which will be more than plenty for the OS and a couple of games/programs.
 
Guys, thanks again ! And 'James' yes it was you that has put my mindset onto the GTX670s, so many thanks for that you may have just saved me £150 squid !

'Josh' i see you are now back from killing the cats, and again savvy advise all round!
It will mostly be a gaming rig with some 3D Modo thrown in, the 3930K is now installed.
The MSI680s do look excellent but christ that is an expensive card.

'yassarikhan786' I do want to run a 3 monitor system hence the push for a push on a GTX680 4GB card, but if a 2/4GB 670 card will do pretty much the same for less money and still support a 3 monitor setup then the GTX670 is a good road to go down.

The SSD road I believe is sorted and I have been looking at the Palit Nvidia GeForce GTX 670 Graphics Card Kepler Architecture and also the EVGA GeF GTX 670 2GB

Big Thanks,
KANEY
 
The Palit's seem to be alright... One of the users here has one and speaks highly of it, but from reviews I've read the cooler does sound rather loud and I'm not a massive fan of the looks. Unless you intend on watercooling, the EVGA uses a reference design and cooler and so will be louder and hotter than the non-reference versions.

If you do intend on a 3 screen set up, why not a 4gb 670?

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-031-KF

I saw that, but I wouldnt buy it just yet as it was £50 cheaper 2 days ago, and I'd expect another deal to possibly be on again.

I have the 2gb version:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-018-KF

And it is very cool, and completely silent. So I do recommend that if you are looking for a very quiet and good performing card.
 
James, and ALL.

Question..... I am trawling the forum and looking at what other users are building and I can see that my build is serious overkill !???? i am thinking so.

Just a bit of inside knowledge I loved and followed gaming since 1980 thanks to my old man and his Atari 2600, C64, Amiga500, then had a PC built back in the day but back then that wasn't great, with and old AMD card.

Recently I stumbled across modern PC builds on You Tube (TTL) and others and I saw the light, binned xboxs, PS3s and other gadgets to build something what I hope is great.

I can see that consoles haven't helped PC land with regards to gaming over the years and at the the rate that hardware is being developed exceeds gaming development, but I see a resurgence of interest that even in my later gaming years I have turned my back on consoles to be more involved in something that you can be a part of, build yourself, and make it work, ultimately making your gaming experience the best it can be, I want to be a part of this, and I still love even more today than I ever have.

anyway.... back on track.....

So I started researching and yeah initially my CPU was an i7 2600 then the K, considered an i5 but the funds I have available it wasn't going to break the bank (thanks to selling everything down CEX) to help fund my build.

I did plug for the i7-3930K to help render times using Modo and now understand that this is again overkill for gaming, but will it still be okay ?? I hope so ??

I now have most of my components so for the most part this is the build I have of course minus GPU but with everyones input I do believe it will be the 'KFA2 GeForce GTX 670 EX OC 4096MB' to support a 3 monitor setup,

From reading the forums I can see that what I am building is a fat monster, but at least I can learn more about OC'ing which was so inaccessible back then to a layman such as myself, clearly where I left PC land a good few years ago a lot has changed as development in games was just that bit ahead of the development in the hardware, your options were limited and even the best 3D cards way back then were still not enough to eek the best out of your gaming experience now it seems the tables have turned where you can build the beast of all beasts and with todays gaming standards your gaming Rig will be under utilised.

Maybe I will come out the traps a little slower for my second build ;-)


mission statement over
KANEY.
 
You will indeed have a beast of a computer :)
This is a PC enthusiast's forum, so we do like stuff like that. What we don't like, however, is people wasting their money! So, if the 3D Modelling etc. stuff you do really needs a 3930K, then by all means, go ahead. Or, if you have oodles of cash just laying around.
But, a 3770k and a Z77A GD65 from MSI would save you a fair bit of cash, and is still up to most jobs. It will just do it a little slower than a 3930k :)

Edit: MAJOR mishap here; never realised that you already had all the parts. Wow...I was right about the oodles of cash xD
When NASA's computers goes down, i'll forward them onto you.
 
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The 3930k is a great CPU and will be absolutely fine for anything you throw at it, so in that sense it is good.
However, as you say hardware is increasing faster than the games we play... The games arent even able to fully utilise a quad core processor yet. Infact, there's no difference between a £100 i3 and a £800 3960X in gaming (maybe a little ;) ) We still recommend people to go with the i5 3570k because you can overclock it better, and so it will perform very well. It's 2 cores that are being utilised, if overclocked to 4.6ghz which is easy even on air cooling these days will outperform the 3930k on air, because you cant clock it as high. I am just talking about gaming here btw - everything that can utilise more than 2/3 threads the 3930k will win easily.

Anyway.... Gaming has come along so much now that it's more down to the graphics card you're running and not the processor - ie - you can spend £100 on a processor and £300 on a graphics card and have a system that performs better in gaming than one with an £800 processor and a £200 graphics card - so that's why our first question is usually 'what is this going to be used for?'

We basically just give the same answers to everyone these days. If you're just gaming, get the i5, gaming and a little rendering / editing, get the 3770k, if you're gaming and doing a lot of rendering, get the 3930k. Then just get the best graphics card to remain in their budget.

It's just very easy for people to think these days that having the best processor means you have the best computer, whereas on these forums, we respect people far more if they build the thing that's right for them, and not overspend on a part that wont benefit them
 
Josh well there you go !

from just those 2 items that you have said right there with the 1155 mother board and CPU compared to what I purchased I could have saved £381

but I would have only put that saving on a twin GTX690 set up............. only joking ;-)


BUT there you go, maybe I should have got on the forums first as i know you should always do if you wish to learn something, I could have saved a small fortune thanks to you guys and maybe have my rig already built !!!

When he's done I will share photos.

Regards
KANEY.
 
haha well I think got the GPU sorted didnt we ;-)


I have learnt more today than most videos references I have watched, all i know is this mother better render quicker than my current setup ! and it better play games better than anything I have seen so far !
 
so many options but I have ended on the KFA2 GeForce GTX 670 EX OC 4096MB.

this should accommodate a 3 monitor setup and not too heavy on the pocket.
 
this is actually with a little bit of input from JamesRiley94, previous threads from yesterday as I will go balls in with a top end card like the 680 or 690 but the 670 should really do the job.
 
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