Nvidia RTX 3090 "CEO Edition" appears online with 48GB of GDDR6X memory
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Dawelio
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The black is actually Faux Leather.
AlienALX
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Kleptobot
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If it's aluminium you could anodize it all sorts of fun colours. If it's steel then it could be heat treated (which going by the power draw of these cards might happen anyway).
KingNosser
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXb-8feWoOE
Makes some valid points, but the thing that stuck out to me was the density between tsmc and samsung it's a pretty big difference.
Makes some valid points, but the thing that stuck out to me was the density between tsmc and samsung it's a pretty big difference.
AlienALX
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Samsung was cheap. If they had gone TSMC you can expect to have seen much higher prices than Ampere on Samsung.
I know many think it's Nvidia just being greedy but it really isn't. And yeah, I never EVER rush to defend Nvidia but the more people demand from GPUs (and get) the more it's going to cost. It really is as simple as that.
There is a reason why Ray Tracing was never attempted in gaming much before.
That is why I really can't see AMD's GPUs costing a penny less than their equivalents TBH. So as dumb as Samsung sounded? one thing it will do is put a lot of pressure on AMD with pricing, because in that area they really don't want to compete.
KingNosser
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Yep I'm not expecting AMD to be cheaper, if anything in my view they might perform slightly better so will very possibly cost a little bit more, mainly due to the density of the node but the chips amd are making are smaller so maybe it balances out, but cheaper is not something i'm expecting.
AlienALX
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Just watched the video. It certainly explains why there is no Titan. However, it certainly lends credence to this rumoured CEO edition.
The absolutely disgusting power consumption of the 3090 could *never* be sold as a Titan. I said this weeks and weeks ago, that they may have ditched it because it is just not viable in a business space. And at 380w stock? dear god.
One thing I do know for sure now (and I mean it) is that I am not touching an Ampere GPU no matter how fast it may be.
The worst GPU I ever had was my GTX 280. I am not sure why Fermi got the moniker for being such a dog but this 280 was absolutely awful. It would hit 90c in my 2x3m bedroom and turn it into a sauna. If I dared to game in summer I would get spots and all sorts. It was really horrible to live with. Eventually it cooked itself and I got two 5770s. However, that summer was the worst.
Sure, these Ampere cards have good coolers on right? yes they do. They look amazing. However, GPU core temp is not what I care about. It's what it dumps out of the back of my feckin rig that *does*. And I could never entertain something that uses nearly the same amount of power (and thus creates as much waste heat!) as a heater itself.
In my old flat? I would have gathered around the back of my rig and rubbed my hands together to keep warm. In my new one? trust me, I have spent two summers in there and it's unbearable *without* a PC on.
Even under water that waste heat has to go somewhere. I foolishly folded for Covid on my 12 core TR rig with the Titan XP in and within two hours I was at the point of fainting.
The absolutely disgusting power consumption of the 3090 could *never* be sold as a Titan. I said this weeks and weeks ago, that they may have ditched it because it is just not viable in a business space. And at 380w stock? dear god.
One thing I do know for sure now (and I mean it) is that I am not touching an Ampere GPU no matter how fast it may be.
The worst GPU I ever had was my GTX 280. I am not sure why Fermi got the moniker for being such a dog but this 280 was absolutely awful. It would hit 90c in my 2x3m bedroom and turn it into a sauna. If I dared to game in summer I would get spots and all sorts. It was really horrible to live with. Eventually it cooked itself and I got two 5770s. However, that summer was the worst.
Sure, these Ampere cards have good coolers on right? yes they do. They look amazing. However, GPU core temp is not what I care about. It's what it dumps out of the back of my feckin rig that *does*. And I could never entertain something that uses nearly the same amount of power (and thus creates as much waste heat!) as a heater itself.
In my old flat? I would have gathered around the back of my rig and rubbed my hands together to keep warm. In my new one? trust me, I have spent two summers in there and it's unbearable *without* a PC on.
Even under water that waste heat has to go somewhere. I foolishly folded for Covid on my 12 core TR rig with the Titan XP in and within two hours I was at the point of fainting.
KingNosser
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I don't think the Nvidia cards are bad tbh, but the amount of power they are going to use is a concern more power means more heat and the fact these coolers while being really over engineered and nicely designed maybe they actually need these to function correctly 
I would and will wait for reviews on all of them, but maybe these cards are not going to overclock amazingly and if they do how much extra power are they going to chew through.
As for AMD I think it'll be decent i'd hope it'd be amazing but decent is good enough, but i don't feel the AMD cards will overclock much they will be pretty much peak clocks as they are out of the box.
I actually had a choice years back between running a 280 system or 9600GT SLI rig and i went for the SLI rig not only was it cheaper but it was pretty solid for the time
I would and will wait for reviews on all of them, but maybe these cards are not going to overclock amazingly and if they do how much extra power are they going to chew through.
As for AMD I think it'll be decent i'd hope it'd be amazing but decent is good enough, but i don't feel the AMD cards will overclock much they will be pretty much peak clocks as they are out of the box.
I actually had a choice years back between running a 280 system or 9600GT SLI rig and i went for the SLI rig not only was it cheaper but it was pretty solid for the time
AlienALX
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380w is not acceptable. At least not to me. That's insane.
And that's stock and we know full well that anything overclocked makes those figures look like small fry. I think Nvidia have just gone with the "good core temp" idea, but if that thing that GN has been building is for measuring the heat output at the back of the case then oh dear..
As for AMD? I have no idea. At all. I know that they promised a 50% PPW improvement over the Navi we have now. I also know they are on TSMC, so as I explained to Dice if Nvidia (and they have, it's almost a conclusion) had a bay day at the office on Samsung 8nm and AMD had a good day? yeah......
Now as to how hard AMD will need to clock these Navi cards to make them competitive, and thus how much they can leave in the tank for us to wring out? again no idea.
Nvidia have made sure to go first. As such they are already behind (AMD that is, Ampere makes Navi look terrible right now). However, it's not always about money. Well in fact no, it is about money. Nvidia took the cheap short cut and AMD didn't. How much that is going to bite them on the ass? like I say no idea.
But yeah, I just refuse to live with that sort of heat disposal. I really mean it too. It's not about money for me I just won *another* lawsuit against my ex landlady and bagged over two grand. It's about do I really need more performance *and* heat output than a 2080Ti Kingpin and Aorus Xtreme under water? no, no I don't.
And that's stock and we know full well that anything overclocked makes those figures look like small fry. I think Nvidia have just gone with the "good core temp" idea, but if that thing that GN has been building is for measuring the heat output at the back of the case then oh dear..
As for AMD? I have no idea. At all. I know that they promised a 50% PPW improvement over the Navi we have now. I also know they are on TSMC, so as I explained to Dice if Nvidia (and they have, it's almost a conclusion) had a bay day at the office on Samsung 8nm and AMD had a good day? yeah......
Now as to how hard AMD will need to clock these Navi cards to make them competitive, and thus how much they can leave in the tank for us to wring out? again no idea.
Nvidia have made sure to go first. As such they are already behind (AMD that is, Ampere makes Navi look terrible right now). However, it's not always about money. Well in fact no, it is about money. Nvidia took the cheap short cut and AMD didn't. How much that is going to bite them on the ass? like I say no idea.
But yeah, I just refuse to live with that sort of heat disposal. I really mean it too. It's not about money for me I just won *another* lawsuit against my ex landlady and bagged over two grand. It's about do I really need more performance *and* heat output than a 2080Ti Kingpin and Aorus Xtreme under water? no, no I don't.
KingNosser
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Yea your on decent cards anyone on a 2080+ doesn't really need to upgrade unless they have some weird issue in a certain game and need the extra power it's enough for most people atm.
Me I'm on 6 year old 970 sli, sli sucks now and these cards are just needing a break, they done really well for a long time for me, but a better single card is needed now
I mean the facts with AMD are very well know the 50+ CU in the xbox is 2080S viable so any CU's above that is going to perform better and i do feel 80 CU's is the top card so yea it's not going to be twice the performance maybe 50% and then it all depends on how that scales in rdna2, but it should use less power at least and maybe have more ram all be it ggr6 not x, some are saying there might be a hbm version but i'm not so sure about that and it would make it more expensive.
I think amd have a bunch of chips ready they are just undecided exaclty how they will bin and spec them maybe on some but not all cards.
I mean the worst case for me is i pick up a 3070/80 after they do their piece to camera i've waited out 3 generations like i normally do it's time to upgrade, but i can wait a short while longer no real issue for me.
Like i said anyone on a 2080+ really doesn't need to move just yet, but Nvidia know there are plenty of 900 and 1000 series owners in the same boat that are ready.
Me I'm on 6 year old 970 sli, sli sucks now and these cards are just needing a break, they done really well for a long time for me, but a better single card is needed now
I mean the facts with AMD are very well know the 50+ CU in the xbox is 2080S viable so any CU's above that is going to perform better and i do feel 80 CU's is the top card so yea it's not going to be twice the performance maybe 50% and then it all depends on how that scales in rdna2, but it should use less power at least and maybe have more ram all be it ggr6 not x, some are saying there might be a hbm version but i'm not so sure about that and it would make it more expensive.
I think amd have a bunch of chips ready they are just undecided exaclty how they will bin and spec them maybe on some but not all cards.
I mean the worst case for me is i pick up a 3070/80 after they do their piece to camera i've waited out 3 generations like i normally do it's time to upgrade, but i can wait a short while longer no real issue for me.
Like i said anyone on a 2080+ really doesn't need to move just yet, but Nvidia know there are plenty of 900 and 1000 series owners in the same boat that are ready.
TheF34RChannel
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Wasn't there a ceo edition of something else in the past? Sounds awfully familiar.
In reply to the quote; if it performs in a way I'm happy with, I truly cannot complain.
AlienALX
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Not that I recall, but there was a Lisa Su GPU. So yeah maybe? I know they did a gold 5700xt with her sig on.
TheF34RChannel
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Maybe that was it. I'll check the video later tonight.
KingNosser
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I'm not really bashing nvidia or saying people should or will be unhappy in either direction, good luck to peeps on thrusday thou you all need to become zen like buddas and be at one with the F5 button, it'll be hard for any of you to get one i expect the real budda's to snap them all up
your kingpin draws up to 520W though... and thats not even with LN2
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