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Old 31-07-20, 10:58 AM
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Noctua plans to release an NH-D15 successor in 2021 alongside new 140mm fans

Noctua's roadmap has revealed a lot of interesting products.



Read more about Noctua's next-generation NH-D15 (NH-D16?) plans.

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Old 31-07-20, 11:52 AM
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I wonder if it's even possible to improve upon what's already available by any reasonable degree, pun not intended.
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I wonder if it's even possible to improve upon what's already available by any reasonable degree, pun not intended.
RGB! didn't you know this adds performance to anything you add it on to? I put some on my washing machine and managed to overclock the spin cycle by an extra 100rpm
I think you're right though, gains may only be marginal but with both AMD and Intel moving away from monolithic dies there may be changes that could be made to the plate itself? or the directions that the heatpipes go in? IDK but I bet they have some ideas.
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RGB! didn't you know this adds performance to anything you add it on to? I put some on my washing machine and managed to overclock the spin cycle by an extra 100rpm
I think you're right though, gains may only be marginal but with both AMD and Intel moving away from monolithic dies there may be changes that could be made to the plate itself? or the directions that the heatpipes go in? IDK but I bet they have some ideas.
Lets not start discussing RGB. I might lose respect for you :P
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Old 01-08-20, 02:23 PM
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There's no such thing as brown light, so Noctua couldn't possibly go RGB.
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There's no such thing as brown light, so Noctua couldn't possibly go RGB.

So how do we see Brown then and.. Well wouldn't it just be 'B' lighting? All the hues of poop!
I wonder if it's a much larger contact area on the new heatsink(s) to work better with chiplet designs?

I'm very curious to see what the new 140's will be, especially if they release new versions of the Industrial series as well. Just had my first 140 Industrial fail on me. Stopped spinning and I tried hitting it with a full PWM signal since everything was running around 40% and the magic electrical smoke poofed out!
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Never noticed that before tbf, brown isn't too hard to create for most screens but if you try to do it with most RGB lights with "millions" of colours the closest you can usually get is orange, I guess because if you try to do a dark colour with those you just get a dim light instead.

(Some might still do more than a million but the real number of perceivable colours would still always be a fraction of the theoretical numbers often advertised [Which is usually just the resolution of the PWM output * number of colours, Eg 2^8 * 3 = 16.8mil without consideration for the non-linearity of brightness in terms of human perception vs Duty Cycle or Power]) .
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So how do we see Brown then and.. Well wouldn't it just be 'B' lighting? All the hues of poop!
We don't see brown!

Open a image in photoshop of any brown thing, then take a sample of the brown color and paint an entire layer with it, then, make photoshop's workspace fullscreen and look at it! The color you'll see is not brown, but instead orange!

Becasue brown is actually a made-up color that our brains create! It doesn't actually exist, it's actually a dark organge! Our brains will interpret it as brown when it notices it's dark, but you can only know if something is dark if you have anthing lighter than itself close to compare! For that reason you can't shine brown light! There won't be a brighter surface nearby for our brains to compare and make out brown! You'll merely see it as orange!

And yes, it's quite possible to make a better CPU cooler, it could be way better while costing way more by just using better materials on the same design, or it could be something like 20-30% better while costing about the same.
Some of the improvements that can be made are fitting more heatpipes (smaller diameter ones), making a 3D fin stack, similar to the Scythe Fuma that would increase surface area, making purposeful micro-imperfections on the surface to further increase surface area, and maybe even making the material of the fin stack a composite material that's more capable of conducting heat instead of plain aluminum.
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So how do we see Brown then and.. Well wouldn't it just be 'B' lighting? All the hues of poop!
I wonder if it's a much larger contact area on the new heatsink(s) to work better with chiplet designs?

I'm very curious to see what the new 140's will be, especially if they release new versions of the Industrial series as well. Just had my first 140 Industrial fail on me. Stopped spinning and I tried hitting it with a full PWM signal since everything was running around 40% and the magic electrical smoke poofed out!
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Never noticed that before tbf, brown isn't too hard to create for most screens but if you try to do it with most RGB lights with "millions" of colours the closest you can usually get is orange, I guess because if you try to do a dark colour with those you just get a dim light instead.

(Some might still do more than a million but the real number of perceivable colours would still always be a fraction of the theoretical numbers often advertised [Which is usually just the resolution of the PWM output * number of colours, Eg 2^8 * 3 = 16.8mil without consideration for the non-linearity of brightness in terms of human perception vs Duty Cycle or Power]) .
Brown doesn't really exist. Our brains have designated certain shades of Orange in certain contexts to be called "Brown". Brown is mostly dark shades of orange, and with light you cannot make brown.

Brown is orange with context. You can't create that context with light alone (like with RGB lights). It needs darkness, which is why browns are found between orange and black in the RGB grid.

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We don't see brown!

Open a image in photoshop of any brown thing, then take a sample of the brown color and paint an entire layer with it, then, make photoshop's workspace fullscreen and look at it! The color you'll see is not brown, but instead orange!

Becasue brown is actually a made-up color that our brains create! It doesn't actually exist, it's actually a dark organge! Our brains will interpret it as brown when it notices it's dark, but you can only know if something is dark if you have anthing lighter than itself close to compare! For that reason you can't shine brown light! There won't be a brighter surface nearby for our brains to compare and make out brown! You'll merely see it as orange!

And yes, it's quite possible to make a better CPU cooler, it could be way better while costing way more by just using better materials on the same design, or it could be something like 20-30% better while costing about the same.
Some of the improvements that can be made are fitting more heatpipes (smaller diameter ones), making a 3D fin stack, similar to the Scythe Fuma that would increase surface area, making purposeful micro-imperfections on the surface to further increase surface area, and maybe even making the material of the fin stack a composite material that's more capable of conducting heat instead of plain aluminum.
Here is a video that I found on the subject a while back. Brown, it's weird.

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As long as Noctua stick with what they know, don't introduce any "Gamer" features, this may be my jump from AIO back to air cooling. I've come to the conclusion that while I like the aesthetic of an AIO, liquid cooling is only really worth it if you're doing a custom loop. I just love the reliability of a quality air cooler (and not having to install Corsair iCue is a nice touch)
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