Apple's ditching Intel in favour of its own silicon - a two-year transition
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This may work out good for them, but as mentioned by Avet getting 3rd party companies to develop specific software options for a "ARM" cpu may not go to well, although given the market they probably will end up doing it.
Still wouldn't have one though, and would much rather be able to install Linux on my pc but given the games I play won't work on Linux even with Proton, then I am stuck with windows at least for now dependent on consoles, and then I will just need a pc for video recording etc and that won't need to be anymore powerfull than my current system.
Tin foil hat time now
I wonder if this is why they seem to be intentionally making Intel CPU's look worse when it comes to temperatures with pathetic cooling.
Also I wonder if this is the way they think they will stop "Hakintosh" machines being built.
I also wonder if they are still going to be priced so high when they don't need to pay Intel any money for the CPU's
Still wouldn't have one though, and would much rather be able to install Linux on my pc but given the games I play won't work on Linux even with Proton, then I am stuck with windows at least for now dependent on consoles, and then I will just need a pc for video recording etc and that won't need to be anymore powerfull than my current system.
Tin foil hat time now
I wonder if this is why they seem to be intentionally making Intel CPU's look worse when it comes to temperatures with pathetic cooling.
Also I wonder if this is the way they think they will stop "Hakintosh" machines being built.
I also wonder if they are still going to be priced so high when they don't need to pay Intel any money for the CPU's
Dark NighT
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When Apple was rocking Motorola's cpu's they were overly expensive as well, because they know they can get away with it, i doubt this will change with Arm.
Avet
Active member
Sadly for the moment, Windows is a necessary evil.
I would love to use Linux full time. I was on Fedora recently for about two months. Most of the games that I play worked fine, but the software is nowhere near. No Adobe, no MusicBee, and drivers for Music production equipment don't exist. It was Hell trying to do stuff with alternatives.
Mac I could use if I win the lottery. It is smooth, app support is out of this world, but no games, and yes... The price.
So... Windows it is.
Apple can do pretty much what they want.
They have fans that follow them blindly to the point of lunacy. I was explaining for two hours to a friend recently that PC has more powerful hardware than Mac. He actually believed that those ancient AMD FirePro cards in the new Mac Pro are on pair with Titans and Quadros... And he knows a bit about computers.
With that massive fanatic fanbase, they can force software developers to do anything. Bigger ones may complain and ask for some compensation, but all those smaller ones will just need to obey.
Imagine the number of bugs, upon bugs, and then some more bugs with instability when all those ports start interacting with each other.
Edit: Apple is in war with Nvidia, now they are ditching Intel. They already have a deal with AMD for the GPUs. Why don't they just use Ryzen CPUs? Imagine that. Mac Pro with Threadripper and Big Navi. Now that would be a proper workstation.
I would love to use Linux full time. I was on Fedora recently for about two months. Most of the games that I play worked fine, but the software is nowhere near. No Adobe, no MusicBee, and drivers for Music production equipment don't exist. It was Hell trying to do stuff with alternatives.
Mac I could use if I win the lottery. It is smooth, app support is out of this world, but no games, and yes... The price.
So... Windows it is.
Apple can do pretty much what they want.
They have fans that follow them blindly to the point of lunacy. I was explaining for two hours to a friend recently that PC has more powerful hardware than Mac. He actually believed that those ancient AMD FirePro cards in the new Mac Pro are on pair with Titans and Quadros... And he knows a bit about computers.
With that massive fanatic fanbase, they can force software developers to do anything. Bigger ones may complain and ask for some compensation, but all those smaller ones will just need to obey.
Imagine the number of bugs, upon bugs, and then some more bugs with instability when all those ports start interacting with each other.
Edit: Apple is in war with Nvidia, now they are ditching Intel. They already have a deal with AMD for the GPUs. Why don't they just use Ryzen CPUs? Imagine that. Mac Pro with Threadripper and Big Navi. Now that would be a proper workstation.
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WYP
News Guru
AMD isn't ahead of Intel in all areas, and Apple wants to add some of its secret sauce to their future Mac SOCs. AMD hasn't focused on putting any AI compute onto its processors, whereas Apple has focused heavily on it.
One has to wonder if Apple has plans to scale up its graphics chips. The latest iPad are surprisingly good systems for basic video editing.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Won't be that impressive. As stated in the other thread they've gimped their laptop designs to be limited in performance. If they actually designed them well they would perform better and the comparison would be closer or better for Intel based systems.
With that said Apple's transition process and their plan is very well thought out and put together imo. However that doesn't mean every company will translate over well, as mentioned above an example would be Adobe.
With that said Apple's transition process and their plan is very well thought out and put together imo. However that doesn't mean every company will translate over well, as mentioned above an example would be Adobe.
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g0ggles1994
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They won't, calling it now. Because from their end, if the customer base is happy paying the current price, then they'll keep it and increase profit margins.
My only comment on the demo is that, yes it seemed good from emulating x86 code but I'd rather see what native ARM programs will perform next to their x86 counterparts.
Lastly, I can see this pushing more of the industry onto ARM which, I hope AMD are still working on their K12 architecture to keep in the game.
