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Old 22-02-19, 01:05 PM
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MSI GTX 1660Ti Gaming X Review

The replacement for the GTX 1060 is here in the form of the Turing equipped GTX 1660Ti, and we're looking at the MSI Gaming X take upon the formula.



Read our MSI GTX 1660Ti Gaming X Review.

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Old 22-02-19, 01:53 PM
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I'd rather get a 2060 and at least get something exclusive.

Which is why I think these cards are all pointless. As much as I find early RTX a little boring I'd rather have it than not, especially now that NVIDIA took a crap on the GTX brand when it launched and told all GTX owners we basically smelled like poo because we didn't have RTX.
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Old 22-02-19, 02:29 PM
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I don't get the point of these, Nvidia should have just lowered the pricing on the 2060 to make them sit just below the 300 dollar mark they would sell like hot cakes, instead we get these cards.


If these were sub 200 dollar then yes i could see a point in having them, but they are not so nvidia completely missed the mark on this.
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Old 22-02-19, 02:44 PM
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RTX2060's were already just lower binned RTX2070's made as cheap as they could be to be fair, asking to push a 445mm^2 die (Not far off 1080Ti die size) to 300USD was probably too much.
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Old 22-02-19, 03:27 PM
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RTX2060's were already just lower binned RTX2070's made as cheap as they could be to be fair, asking to push a 445mm^2 die (Not far off 1080Ti die size) to 300USD was probably too much.
Without me checking as I am on my phone how big is Vega 56? Because AMD must be making something with a RRP of £270.

And surely the costs of HBM2 are far greater than those of GDDR6.

Or, is it simply that NVIDIA are so used to bending their customers over that they can't bear to make slightly less on each 2060 sold and would thus rather sell them leftover slop?

I think you'll find it's the latter. They need a reality slap like Intel got when Ryzen came along.
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Old 22-02-19, 03:40 PM
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Obviously different companies have different operating costs and need different margins to break even, we all know NVidia spends orders of magnitudes more on R&D, staff, marketing & upkeep than AMD, while AMD are known to sell their older products without profit margins to maintain marketshare. Also of course older inventory no longer being produced and soon set to be replaced at least in announcements in the coming months quickly becomes a liability if not sold at any price soon(Excess 1060 inventory ofc messed up NVidia's whole launch lineup).
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In other words NVIDIA are more greedy.

Thought so.
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I think bringing greed into a discussion about public companies that have to answer to investors operating within a system specifically designed to use profits as incentive is kinda disingenuous. The problem is with the game, they're just doing what any large company has to do to play it, it's not like AMD sell their products cheaper because they want to pee off their investors more, pricing is defined by large teams of skilled workers and a whole host of different algorithms attempting to map market factors, there's some suggestion NVidia's prices are off a little because they incorrectly attributed the Pascal sales from crypto to gaming due to how they segregate the sales data(IE they didn't), it's essentially an analysis error at most.

Edit: Apparently the sale on the Vega56 is temporary too just for this launch so it does seem to be a sacrificing profit for total marketshare thing more in this case.
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Does this model have somewhere a hidden button what switches off the annoying RGB?
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Old 23-02-19, 05:47 PM
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Does this model have somewhere a hidden button what switches off the annoying RGB?
I'm sure you can use MSI's software to turn it off.
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