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Old 10-01-19, 02:41 PM
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Nvidia CEO Calls Radeon VII "Underwhelming" and says "The Performance is Lousy"

Jensen says that the RTX 2080 will "crush it" with DLSS.



Read more about Nvidia's CEO calling the Radeon VII "underwhelming" and its performance "lousy".

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Old 10-01-19, 02:47 PM
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Old 10-01-19, 02:52 PM
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Old 10-01-19, 02:55 PM
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^ The fact that that Jensen is Lisa's uncle wakes it way funnier.
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Old 10-01-19, 03:02 PM
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So, reading this, I can interpret it as one of two things :

1) NVidia are getting kind of scared. Not because they are not ahead, but because their lead may be shrinking (market-wise) and with all the lawsuits and stuff, they are bleeding money and AMD might have a chance to really catch up. They may pay for their arrogance in the last few years.

2) NVidia know they're so far ahead of the competition that they feel comfortable ridiculing them during their time on the spotlight. No matter how wrong other things go, their technology is great and there's no chance of AMD catching up.

I for one think the truth is somewhere in the middle. Intel was seen as farther ahead of AMD on the CPU front than NVidia is on the GPU front, and AMD managed to somehow pull the carpet under Intel's feet. And now they're feeling the pressure while AMD is raking in that sweet sweet money Ryzen brings. I'm not holding my breath, but I wouldn't be too surprised if a similar thing happened with NVidia down the line. For now, Radeon VII is a bit underwhelming, but only when viewed from an improvement over Vega standpoint (or a power consumtion standpoint, I will assume). The performance, if AMD's testing is to be believed, is nice and I will probably be buying one, just because I want that level of performance, don't care about power draw and don't want to buy NVidia out of principle.
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Old 10-01-19, 03:03 PM
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Jensen says that the RTX 2080 will "crush it" with DLSS.
Which is supported by how many games?


Nvidia's been dealing in gimmicks for well over a decade now. DLSS is no different. Just a fancy upscaling technique. And Nvidia likes to commit an occasional fraud every once in a while, let's not forget about that. That's why I really can't stand them as a company and why I'm constantly rooting for AMD to come up with something at least decent enough that I don't have to give my money to Nvidia.
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the man in the ivory tower (that's on fire btw Jensen) looking down at the peasants and mocking them.
I cannot wait to see how this pans out over the next few years.
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Old 10-01-19, 03:07 PM
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Which is supported by how many games?


Nvidia's been dealing in gimmicks for well over a decade now. And they commit an occasional fraud every once in a while. That's why I really can't stand them as a company and why I'm constantly rooting for AMD to come up with something at least decent enough that I don't have to give my money to Nvidia.
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I wouldn't say the performance is lousy, but I would say it's underwhelming. It's basically a 1080Ti (roughly same performance, same price, same TDP) but with superior 'compute' performance...

...two years later...with no DLSS or RT.

Performance is good, price is terrible. I won't be buying one of these for the same reason I wouldn't buy an RTX card.
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if we turn on ray tracing we’ll crush it
Yep, crush your own fps. If "we" turn on ray tracing and dlss? I was under the impression that both of these things were down to game developers to integrate/enable, and thus far the only way you've improved ray tracing performance is disabling half of it (Battlefield V).

If it's true that AMD is able to match the 2080 then that's fantastic progress for the red team, although I fear they need to do so at a lower price due to the nvidiot mindshare.
The concerning thing would be the suggestions I've seen that the Vega VII is just a failed/repurposed Instinct MI50
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