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MSI's RTX 2080 Ti Lightning Z Pictured - Overclocked to 2450MHz
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TheF34RChannel
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Oe let's rob that guy!
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Kaapstad
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They are not even using the best memory chips for the card and they want to call it Lightning lol.
If anyone really wants to spend stupid money for this or any other extreme 2080 Ti they may as well get an RTX Titan, at least it uses 24gb of Samsung memory.
AlienALX
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It's not a gaming card. It never was. It's never been a good idea to run these on air, they were designed with extreme overclocking in mind at which point I would assume the memory becomes less important.
But yeah, sans the GTX 480 none of these were really worth buying, unless you had extreme overclocking in mind. At least the 480 fixed the awful cooler Nvidia had, and the price wasn't that bad either.
I'm pretty happy they bought these back. At least for overclockers.
Kaapstad
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The point is these are not extreme benching cards as they come with an air cooler for normal use. Anyone buying these cards and thinking it is more than a gaming card is kidding themselves. Another reason these are just gaming cards is the multiple video outputs, you only need one if you are using it for extreme benching, any extra is just clutter and complexity that is not needed.
For extremely low temps Samsung tends to be the memory of choice, whether this is still true for GDDR6 I don't know but at normal temps it is outperforming the other options. My RTX Titans in SLI using Samsung have no problem running stable @4100mhz on the memory which is better than nearly all 2080 Ti cards I have seen so far.
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AlienALX
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I don't think it would be legal to sell a GPU with no cooler at all dude. Not fit for purpose would come to mind. But yeah, why they design such an elaborate one who knows?
Mind you, it is a nice cooler IMO but yeah, I would never buy one just to stick in my PC I would rather put the extra money elsewhere, like going all SSD for example.
To be fair the board is like 50% power circuitry by area, it has a few display connectors but they seem to be 4 different types with no 2 of anything, presumably kept from the base design for compatibility & redundancy(And because to be fair it can take way more man hours removing stuff from an already validated PCB design than just leaving it in as you expand it, it's only like a £ or two's worth of connectors in BOM costs, they could have just not soldered them but it's probably not worth the lost sales to random people using as gaming cards, or getting a new endplate design cut or whatever. It only really takes one or two guys to buy it for use as a gaming card to recuperate the BOM costs on fitting display connectors to every model on those margins).
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Kaapstad
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That is not the point here.
If MSI want to sell a gaming card the above is fine.
If MSI really want to design an extreme benching card from scratch things like extra video outputs and air cooler would not be there in the first place.
I also think it is a total joke to use Micron memory which from the pic below overclocks very poorly.
Lets see this card for what it is, a very overpriced gaming card. If it really was dedicated to extreme benching it would be very different and would sell in much smaller numbers.
