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Old 22-10-18, 11:27 AM
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AMD's Next-Generation Navi GPUs are reportedly running in their labs

These graphics cards are claimed to be "better than expected".



Read more about AMD's Next-Generation Navi Graphics cards running in their hardware labs.

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Old 22-10-18, 02:25 PM
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Just in time for nvidia to sell off all their 10 series stock and drop the price of 20 series. Shame it won't be sooner
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Old 22-10-18, 04:01 PM
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"Better than expected", which means absolutely nothing if they had low expectations.
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"Better than expected", which means absolutely nothing if they had low expectations.
lmao.

To be honest, this "Better than expected" attitude mirrors a lot of Vega's hype as well. I honestly hope it doesn't backfire
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Old 22-10-18, 04:23 PM
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I don't believe anything from Radeon Group. Vega was massive disappointment. And they keep failing over, and over. Until I see solid reviews from Tom and the gang I won't acknowledge their existence.
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You have to remember this is a Polaris replacement and not a Vega replacement so keep expectations low.
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Old 22-10-18, 06:43 PM
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For all intents and purposes, Vega was quite successful. It has found its way into products ranging from 35W £50 parts to 350W £500 parts, demonstrating an amazingly versatile balance of power & efficiency. It significantly outperformed the competition in its primary markets(Enterprise & servers, where pretty much all of AMDs recent profit has came from), shifted market share from NVidia to AMD on the desktop, and was consistently selling faster than it could be produced for most of its life. Heck, even Intel adopted Vega. It's important to remember a world exists outside the bubble of PC gaming, and it will always be a secondary market for any company capable of being successful in enterprise endeavours.

Even when companies do shift focus towards gaming, a company looking to carefully & reliably increase its profits would only really care about console gaming and mid/low end PC gaming, two markets AMD has fairly neatly wrapped up. High-end gaming GPUs are risky, low volume, low profit products, which is why both NVidia and AMD's high end cards are both now enterprise chips first with the gaming variants being cut-down second order products.

Turing & Vega both compete on very even footing in the market where they produce all their profit. Neither NVidia nor AMD seem to care about how they compete in the gaming market, hence why NVidia is flat-out refusing to release new products in AMDs target markets and vice versa. AMD doesn't have a reason to release new hardware to be more competitive, and neither does NVidia, as long as they both insist on playing it safe(But AMD isn't in a position to take risks and NVidia has never had a reason to).
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Old 22-10-18, 09:28 PM
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You have to remember this is a Polaris replacement and not a Vega replacement so keep expectations low.
If it could perform Vega levels at Polaris price points that'd be great too
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Old 22-10-18, 10:31 PM
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"Better than expected", which means absolutely nothing if they had low expectations.
Haha this was just so funny!

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For all intents and purposes, Vega was quite successful. It has found its way into products ranging from 35W £50 parts to 350W £500 parts, demonstrating an amazingly versatile balance of power & efficiency. It significantly outperformed the competition in its primary markets(Enterprise & servers, where pretty much all of AMDs recent profit has came from), shifted market share from NVidia to AMD on the desktop, and was consistently selling faster than it could be produced for most of its life. Heck, even Intel adopted Vega. It's important to remember a world exists outside the bubble of PC gaming, and it will always be a secondary market for any company capable of being successful in enterprise endeavours.

Even when companies do shift focus towards gaming, a company looking to carefully & reliably increase its profits would only really care about console gaming and mid/low end PC gaming, two markets AMD has fairly neatly wrapped up. High-end gaming GPUs are risky, low volume, low profit products, which is why both NVidia and AMD's high end cards are both now enterprise chips first with the gaming variants being cut-down second order products.

Turing & Vega both compete on very even footing in the market where they produce all their profit. Neither NVidia nor AMD seem to care about how they compete in the gaming market, hence why NVidia is flat-out refusing to release new products in AMDs target markets and vice versa. AMD doesn't have a reason to release new hardware to be more competitive, and neither does NVidia, as long as they both insist on playing it safe(But AMD isn't in a position to take risks and NVidia has never had a reason to).
I’m not entirely sure if all of this is correct, but damn good post either way! Really enjoyed reading it!
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