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Old 21-08-18, 10:06 AM
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Nvidia challenges AIB partners - Founders Edition GPUs will be factory overclocked

Nvidia's Founders Edition cards have higher clocks than reference models.



Read more about Nvidia's challenging AIBs with their overclocked Founders Edtion graphics cards.

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Old 21-08-18, 11:11 AM
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Hang on.



Overclocking is something that is done to a product after it leaves the manufacturers hands. You make it go faster than intended; from this comes the term "Over".


Aftermarket cards can be Overclocked by EVGA/MSI/ASUS since they are "Over" the specs from the manufacturer (Nvidia). And any card can be Overclocked by the end user.


But the manufacturer CANNOT overclock their own creation. It is simply against the definition of the word. A founders Edition just runs at the speed is does and is built for. In this case, perhaps by using binned chips. But they are not overclocked. Rather the chips given to others are then simply of lower quality - or "underclocked".
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Old 21-08-18, 11:20 AM
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Hang on.



Overclocking is something that is done to a product after it leaves the manufacturers hands. You make it go faster than intended; from this comes the term "Over".


Aftermarket cards can be Overclocked by EVGA/MSI/ASUS since they are "Over" the specs from the manufacturer (Nvidia). And any card can be Overclocked by the end user.


But the manufacturer CANNOT overclock their own creation. It is simply against the definition of the word. A founders Edition just runs at the speed is does and is built for. In this case, perhaps by using binned chips. But they are not overclocked. Rather the chips given to others are then simply of lower quality - or "underclocked".
Well, Nvidia's Founders Editions are not "Reference" designs anymore.

Nvidia now makes a "Reference" design for others to follow and surpasses it with their new models. I see your point, but TBH it is arguing semantics. AMD did similar things with their air-cooled and water-cooled Vega 64 GPUs, both were AMD designs but one performs better. Both could be considered reference models.

With Nvidia's new Founders Edition cards we now have a situation where some AIB models could offer lower performance levels than Nvidia Founders model.
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Old 21-08-18, 11:54 AM
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TBH it is arguing semantics

I agree, but feel it relevant still. Else almost any improvement to any product can be called overclocking / tuning or something like that. The term then looses its meaning.
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Old 21-08-18, 01:47 PM
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I agree, but feel it relevant still. Else almost any improvement to any product can be called overclocking / tuning or something like that. The term then looses its meaning.
It has been going on for years. Gigabyte's SOC "Super over clocked". EVGA do it too. Superclock and etc were names they used for years.

In its rawest definition no it isn't overclocking, but technically it is. And so is Turbo boost on CPUs and etc. They all raise the clocks and lower them accordingly.

The new Strix has OC on the box large in white. So don't blame the end user for getting confused
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Old 21-08-18, 02:34 PM
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It has been going on for years. Gigabyte's SOC "Super over clocked". EVGA do it too. Superclock and etc were names they used for years.

In its rawest definition no it isn't overclocking, but technically it is. And so is Turbo boost on CPUs and etc. They all raise the clocks and lower them accordingly.

The new Strix has OC on the box large in white. So don't blame the end user for getting confused

That is pretty much the opposite of the point I was making. Please read the post again:-)


Nvidia : Cannot call their own stuff OC'd. They produce a card with chip that can run a given speed. No matter what, that is the 'product speed'. Nvidia cannot say a chip runs at "500" speed, but they make it run at "600" speed. That makes the "500" bogus, and "600" become the norm. By running it at "600", that then becomes the 'spec' of that chip. Argh. Please understand :-)



EVGA/ASUS and the rest CAN. They get a chip, and make it run faster than Nvidia says it can. That is OC.
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Old 21-08-18, 02:38 PM
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You can buy factory tuned cars as well As in Volvo Polestar kit for instance.
Now they are making it into its own sub brand, with a Polestar One electric car
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Nvidia : Cannot call their own stuff OC'd. They produce a card with chip that can run a given speed. No matter what, that is the 'product speed'. Nvidia cannot say a chip runs at "500" speed, but they make it run at "600" speed. That makes the "500" bogus, and "600" become the norm. By running it at "600", that then becomes the 'spec' of that chip. Argh. Please understand :-)

EVGA/ASUS and the rest CAN. They get a chip, and make it run faster than Nvidia says it can. That is OC.
Yes NVIDIA can do it. Because they made a chip that is running at "500" speed and they will give that chip to AiB partners, and majority of cards will run at that speed. But if you buy it directly from NVIDIA they will give you binned chip that goes a bit higher.

It is possible that NVIDIA is keeping the best chips for themselves. That would be a d#cky move.
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Yes NVIDIA can do it. Because they made a chip that is running at "500" speed and they will give that chip to AiB partners, and majority of cards will run at that speed. But if you buy it directly from NVIDIA they will give you binned chip that goes a bit higher.

It is possible that NVIDIA is keeping the best chips for themselves. That would be a d#cky move.
That would be a d#cky move.

^ you mean a NVIDIA move like normal, or INTEL with their "special edition CPUs"
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Old 21-08-18, 06:03 PM
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That would be a d#cky move.

^ you mean a NVIDIA move like normal, or INTEL with their "special edition CPUs"
NVIDIA had "questionable" strategy towards competition AMD, 3Dfx that is true, but never so much towards board partners. Now they are competing with them. That is bad... Because ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte, and rest will loose a lot of money. The reason you bough AIB cards is because they were better than Reference cards. Now that might not be the case.
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