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Old 19-07-18, 05:07 PM
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AMD Zen 2 processors rumoured to offer a 10-15% IPC boost and up to 16 cores on AM4

16 cores on AMD, 32 cores on TR4 and 64 cores for EPYC 2! Really?



Read more about AMD's Zen 2 processor's and the rumoured 10-15% IPC boost.

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Old 19-07-18, 06:06 PM
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I don't see 8-core designs being used in the CCX. I don't even know if they'll move to 6-cores—but that's certainly possible. Even then, if moving to 6-cores mean reducing clock speeds, I'd rather they stuck with 4-core CCXs and increased the clock speed. That way we'd still have 8-core CPUs for AM4 and up to 32-core for TR4, but at much higher clock speeds. Ryzen with further refinements to the interconnects, 15% IPC bump, 8-core CPUs, 4.6Ghz overclocks/boosts, 95W TDP, all for the same price as what we pay now, that would be astonishingly good.
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While that's great and all unless their single core performance can match Intel for gaming then more cores aren't going to help with anything other than rendering programs.
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But that Intel single core advantage is only a factor at low resolutions like 1080p, no? It's never held me back at 4K or 1440p, even with my Ryzen 1700 running at completely stock. That IPC performance thing is WAY overblown IMO.
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But that Intel single core advantage is only a factor at low resolutions like 1080p, no? It's never held me back at 4K or 1440p, even with my Ryzen 1700 running at completely stock. That IPC performance thing is WAY overblown IMO.
The main part that I find odd is that I can at 1440P see only up to around 80% GPU usage even with my 2700X and only now and then spiking to 95% where as with my 8700K it stays constantly at 99% GPU usage.
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But do you see a difference gaming though? That's the key question.
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But that Intel single core advantage is only a factor at low resolutions like 1080p, no? It's never held me back at 4K or 1440p, even with my Ryzen 1700 running at completely stock. That IPC performance thing is WAY overblown IMO.
A lot of people are gaming at 1080p/144hz though. They might only have a GTX 970 or 1060 now, but within a year a lot will have upgraded. At 1080p with a GTX 1080, Intel wins almost all the time. It's not by a large margin until you start pushing clocks up to 4.9Ghz (and even then it's not unreasonable), but it's enough for consumers to choose Intel.

And clock speed and IPC also helps tremendously with things like music production and general productivity. That's a big draw for business-minded gamers who work with spreadsheets a lot. A lot of musicians also happen to be gamers as well (it's a hobby that crosses over regularly) and I would recommend a 8700K over a 2700X for music production.
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But do you see a difference gaming though? That's the key question.
Yep, General average FPS is up on the 8700K over the 2700X, In Destiny 2 I'd routinely get drops down to 50, Now it's pretty much stable at 80-100FPS.
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Yep, General average FPS is up on the 8700K over the 2700X, In Destiny 2 I'd routinely get drops down to 50, Now it's pretty much stable at 80-100FPS.
Hmm, that surprises me. Interesting though. But I will still never support Intel again unless I'm forced to.
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Hmm, that surprises me. Interesting though. But I will still never support Intel again unless I'm forced to.
Well when 20% of my £1000 GPU isn't being used because of a CPU I have no problem swapping out the CPU to fully utilize it
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