Intel 28-core CPU spotted on custom ASUS ROG motherboard
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dugdiamond
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how much?
g0ggles1994
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NeverBackDown
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He is not talking about the 24-pin, maybe I'm just wrong, but he is also counting with the 2, already conneced, 8-pin connectors, which would effectively be 4 8-pin and 2 6-pin.
NeverBackDown
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NeverBackDown
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One of these boards would work in my little 24/7 PC as it has plenty of power and connectors.
I wouldn't consider it a "little" PC if it was able to fit that behemoth of a motherboard. That board is probably the entire inside of my itx case.
AlienALX
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It's 16 phase apparently. I recall owning the MSI BB XP II and it was 24, however I also read that it had been doubled which was pretty much pointless.
I think there is a lot that people need to learn about CPUs and boards like this going into the future. If some 8 phase boards barely cope with an 8 core CPU do the math. Apparently this Dominus board can provide up to 2kw. Thing is? it's highly likely you will need it.
I would also imagine that some of the TR boards already launched will not be able to power the 32c TR2 either. Maybe the Zenith Ex will be capable but we won't know that until you try it I guess. But yes, these CPUs need an awful lot of power and an awful lot of cooling.
And right now they are completely pointless. They are data centre CPUs which is where they should be IMO. Rebranded server parts was never really a great idea, as you will struggle to find actual uses for them.
Ed. Forgot to add this, may as well do it here. Linus has had a pair of 28c Xeons for ages. He actually had 2 pairs, but one turned out to be bogus. IIRC? about $5-7000 each. The board he has (SAGE) cost about $2-3k too.
I think there is a lot that people need to learn about CPUs and boards like this going into the future. If some 8 phase boards barely cope with an 8 core CPU do the math. Apparently this Dominus board can provide up to 2kw. Thing is? it's highly likely you will need it.
I would also imagine that some of the TR boards already launched will not be able to power the 32c TR2 either. Maybe the Zenith Ex will be capable but we won't know that until you try it I guess. But yes, these CPUs need an awful lot of power and an awful lot of cooling.
And right now they are completely pointless. They are data centre CPUs which is where they should be IMO. Rebranded server parts was never really a great idea, as you will struggle to find actual uses for them.
Ed. Forgot to add this, may as well do it here. Linus has had a pair of 28c Xeons for ages. He actually had 2 pairs, but one turned out to be bogus. IIRC? about $5-7000 each. The board he has (SAGE) cost about $2-3k too.
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i render 3d images i have no problems finding use for more cores.
right now i run a renderfarm of 4x8 core systems and 2x16 core systems.
they render single images with distributed bucket rendering (each bucket = 1 core) and videos on a frame by frame basis (each system renders a single frame).
and i still wish i hade more renderpower.
i may buy two of the 24 core threadripper to replace my two 1950x.
AMD made it possible.
i do this as freelancer beside my day job. 3 years ago i only could have dreamt about this core count.
since ryzen came out last year i have replaced all my intel systems with AMD.
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NeverBackDown
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Why not just use a GPU to render 3d images?
the renderer i use (vray) has a GPU rendering engine but i use it only for fast previews.
one problem is that GPU´s i can afford have not enough memory.
some scene even have to swap to SSD with 32GB of system memory.
with 8GB GPU memory you won´t come far.
it enough for some scenes but not all scenes.
another problem is that not all render functions are supported by GPU rendering.
with the latest version it´s a hybrid thing (CPU + GPU).
but that doesn´t really change anything... then i would need more GPU´s instead of CPU´s.
here is some infos about GPU and CPU render:
https://corona-renderer.com/features/proudly-cpu-based
https://corona-renderer.com/features/the-cpu-advantage
it´s some info from corona, now owned by chaosgroup who makes vray.
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Everyone knows intel used SUB ZERO cooling to get to 5Ghz, making it unlikely that you are not a fool and an intel tool. Considering stats even linearly, if this same xeon at ~4.8 ghz overclock took 600W of power then at 5ghz it would ride up to 750W continuous. A bloody car radiator would have difficulties with keeping it under tjmax.
Also also also i think if You are a PC tech and OVERCLOCK journalist, you look at a high scoring machine with custom made motherboard, with 32+1 power phases and mothaducking four 8 pin connectors and you still have any, even the slightest hope this is what consumer will get and that it is cool-able without an industrial class phasechange device, it is highly likely you should be replaced as a tech journalist.
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sorry for my ignorance i don´t follow computex that much (weather is to good to spend my free time at the PC).
but is this the same intel system that used a chiller and gamers nexus made a video about?
i am a bit confused as i thought this is a different system than that from the intel demo and that this one uses just ordinary watercooling.
at least they look a lot different:
https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/a_closer_look_at_intel_s_28-core_5ghz_system/1
so i guess this asus system runs a 28 core CPU but with undisclosed speed on water.
and the other system at the intel demo was an OC system that used a hidden chiller.
anyway... intel has succeeded to make the press working overtime on free PR for them.
and that with some crazy mainboard and cooling solution.
something threadripper 2 will not need.
and some people really think there will be a 5GHz 28 core cpu this year... probably for around 1800 euro.
everything for the clickbait i guess.... you can always do a critical second report later.
that way you get twice the content out of a BS story.
but is this the same intel system that used a chiller and gamers nexus made a video about?
i am a bit confused as i thought this is a different system than that from the intel demo and that this one uses just ordinary watercooling.
at least they look a lot different:
https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/a_closer_look_at_intel_s_28-core_5ghz_system/1
so i guess this asus system runs a 28 core CPU but with undisclosed speed on water.
and the other system at the intel demo was an OC system that used a hidden chiller.
anyway... intel has succeeded to make the press working overtime on free PR for them.
and that with some crazy mainboard and cooling solution.
something threadripper 2 will not need.
and some people really think there will be a 5GHz 28 core cpu this year... probably for around 1800 euro.
well to be fair.... headlines of major tech magazines:
everything for the clickbait i guess.... you can always do a critical second report later.that way you get twice the content out of a BS story.
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NeverBackDown
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Excuse you sir you can definitely lay off.
Everybody reported it and NOBODY saw the system. Once everybody got a chance to SEE THE SYSTEM THEY UPDATED THE ARTICLE AND CALLED OUT INTEL.
Everybody reported it and NOBODY saw the system. Once everybody got a chance to SEE THE SYSTEM THEY UPDATED THE ARTICLE AND CALLED OUT INTEL.
AlienALX
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Right. Render Farm = not mainstream it's pro use and thus what I said stands. Maybe I should have listed all of the uses for pro stuff but I was expecting you to get the drift. What you are doing is far from browsing Google and playing games.
You could have had huge amounts of cores years ago dude. IIRC they made up to 12 core CPUs on Ivy, then you could use at least two of them in the same board. There were 18 core CPUs on Broadwell E, same thing.
All they are doing here is bringing server parts into the mainstream and targeting desktop users. This kinda goes a bit further than HEDT though. They didn't even bother to change the socket.
you missed the point.... PRICE!
AMD made it affordable.
xeon E5 2695 with 12 cores did cost around 2700 dollar in 2014.
then add a server board to that.
dreamt about it doesn´t mean i think there where only 4 core cpus years ago.
i don´t need you to tell me that
but having 64 cores at my disposal years ago would have cost me a fortune.
the 18 core broadwell came out last year... i had decided for threadripper already.
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