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Old 20-11-17, 02:05 PM
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ASUS updates a large number of AM4/Ryzen motherboards with AGESA 1071

This new AGESA update adds support for future AM4 processors.



Read more on ASUS updating most of their AM4 lineup with AGESA version 1071.

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Other people (not on this forum) have mused that the 12nm Ryzen refresh will bring higher clock speeds to the desktop. I thought this refresh was more for notebook efficiency and for the APUs, but I wonder if the recent price drops for Ryzen were because AMD wanted to sell off remaining stock before switching to the 12nm process and offering higher clock speeds for everyone.
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Pretty cool, I know if I can indeed keep the same mobo then I will switch over to the top chip of the refresh

Although it's a little odd that the Crosshair mobos haven't gotten the update, Hope they do.
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Other people (not on this forum) have mused that the 12nm Ryzen refresh will bring higher clock speeds to the desktop. I thought this refresh was more for notebook efficiency and for the APUs, but I wonder if the recent price drops for Ryzen were because AMD wanted to sell off remaining stock before switching to the 12nm process and offering higher clock speeds for everyone.
With Zen2 being planned for 7nm it is unlikely to release in 2018, which makes a 12nm (Effectively Gloflo 14nm ++) refresh of Zen a good option.

It really depends on what AMD has done here, whether or not AMD has been able to fix up Ryzen much in silicon and whether or not the new process improves clock speeds or reduces power consumption by a meaningful amount. Even changes that will allow RAM/infinity fabric to run faster would be of huge benefit.

What should be expected is a Bulldozer-Piledriver kind of change, where the node is effectively the same and AMD has the opportunity to improve the design in a few small ways. This design is likely to be more of a polished Zen than a Zen 2.

To make a long story short, there will not be that huge of a leap, 12nm is just a polished 14nm and the Zen core design will not have any transformative changes until Zen 2 on 7nm.
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With Zen2 being planned for 7nm it is unlikely to release in 2018, which makes a 12nm (Effectively Gloflo 14nm ++) refresh of Zen a good option.

It really depends on what AMD has done here, whether or not AMD has been able to fix up Ryzen much in silicon and whether or not the new process improves clock speeds or reduces power consumption by a meaningful amount. Even changes that will allow RAM/infinity fabric to run faster would be of huge benefit.

What should be expected is a Bulldozer-Piledriver kind of change, where the node is effectively the same and AMD has the opportunity to improve the design in a few small ways. This design is likely to be more of a polished Zen than a Zen 2.

To make a long story short, there will not be that huge of a leap, 12nm is just a polished 14nm and the Zen core design will not have any transformative changes until Zen 2 on 7nm.
Oh yeah, I don't expect any big changes, but if a 1800X can suddenly hit 4.4Ghz on a good day, that alone would be a very welcome improvement for a lot of people. AMD did say that the clock speeds for Ryzen were initially worst case scenario, or they conservative. Not sure whether that was just talk, but it'll be almost a year since Ryzen came out when the new CPUs are released.
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Oh yeah, I don't expect any big changes, but if a 1800X can suddenly hit 4.4Ghz on a good day, that alone would be a very welcome improvement for a lot of people. AMD did say that the clock speeds for Ryzen were initially worst case scenario, or they conservative. Not sure whether that was just talk, but it'll be almost a year since Ryzen came out when the new CPUs are released.
Yeah, higher average overclocks would be great. Any clock speed boost would be great for AMD. A boost to 4.4GHz would be awesome, or the ability to clock memory higher the average CPU.

If it works out like that then Pinnacle Ridge would effectively do to Ryzen what Kaby Lake did to Skylake, higher max clock speeds with improved support for high-speed memory.
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Yeah doing both of those would really pick up performance even if they were modest gains. I'm interested if they also bring in a revised chipset too.

Edit: it's probably for the APUs now that I think about it
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Yeah doing both of those would really pick up performance even if they were modest gains. I'm interested if they also bring in a revised chipset too.

Edit: it's probably for the APUs now that I think about it
The update is for future CPU's not APU's

Sidenote, elmor released a AGESA 1071 beta bios for the Crosshair series -

http://www.overclock.net/t/1624603/r...#post_26460267
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The update is for future CPU's not APU's

Sidenote, elmor released a AGESA 1071 beta bios for the Crosshair series -

http://www.overclock.net/t/1624603/r...#post_26460267
But also note that AMD has never called Raven Ridge and APU in recent history, only referred to as a CPU with Vega graphics on notebooks. AMD seems to be dropping the term APU.
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That thread moves so fast, I can't keep up with it. I'm tempted to try the new BIOS as I'm having cold boot problems. Everything runs very smoothly otherwise. I've managed to get around the cold boot issue by simply putting my system to sleep at night and then restarting it when I wake the system up again if I need to. Some people keep their systems running 24/7 all year round, but I just feel weird not restarting every day.
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