WYP
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AMD releases a statement regarding RX Vega pricing and availability
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AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
"we have heard from retailers so far suggests that RX Vega 64 GPUs are simply unprofitable at this price without them."
Then either make a better GPU or make a cheaper GPU. Choose one and go for it. Don't make an expensive GPU that underperforms. If Vega 64 was ahead of the GTX 1080, even in games that favour Nvidia—just like the Fury X was always ahead of the 980 in a game like GTA V—and had a TDP of 250W, then I would pay £550. I might even pay £600. But what AMD are offering simply does not interest me as someone who loves tech and gaming.
Then either make a better GPU or make a cheaper GPU. Choose one and go for it. Don't make an expensive GPU that underperforms. If Vega 64 was ahead of the GTX 1080, even in games that favour Nvidia—just like the Fury X was always ahead of the 980 in a game like GTA V—and had a TDP of 250W, then I would pay £550. I might even pay £600. But what AMD are offering simply does not interest me as someone who loves tech and gaming.
Agreed. If they can't keep costs down, that's their own stupid fault. Design a more efficient architecture next time. Maybe NOT tie yourself to extremely expensive memory that apparently does next to nothing for game performance, has low yields, and costs a butt-ton of money.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Tbf, these plans were in long before Koduri took over. It isn't like he had that much input into it after AMD already committed to using Infinity Fabric and HBM.
So i think Navi will be his first own personal release where he has the most input on design and only answers to Lisa, it should be impressive. Have him do most of the work instead of the CPU team dictating what needs to be in there because AMD has the dream of combining an AIO SoC.
What I personally think though, is that if AMD just kept with the GDDR memory and only designed there HPC class cards with HBM, they would be far and away ahead. Maybe not on the same level as Nvidia in regards to performance AND efficiency, but they would probably be much better off than they are now all while making higher margin products.
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AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
I've actually read and heard that quite a few miners are still more interested in Polaris. Vega 56 looks good to some of them, but the power draw could theoretically cause high electricity bills, force them to replace their PSU, or add more radiator space to keep temperatures down. From what I've seen, Vega is not that much more efficient than Polaris. It doesn't appear the huge leap AMD were suggesting.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Yeah, shame it's probably 18 months away, likely more considering it's using 7nm.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Vega is quite a leap in design. There is no doubting that. However it's still a massive chip which means it consumes a lot of power. The fact that they went from 1050mhz to reference cards being able to nearly hit 1800mhz is quite a feat.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
While I could be wrong here, so do correct me if I am, but it's apparent to me that the features that make Vega such an interesting GPU aren't enough. Otherwise AMD would have simply kept the clock speeds at 1450Mhz and thus vastly improved efficiency. But they need the cards to clock higher to squeeze every last drop out, which forces high temperatures and high power consumption for not a great deal of payoff.
Hexus just rather interestingly released a quick review of the ASUS Vega 64 Strix, and it looks decent. 74°C under load. It overclocked to 1980Mhz and 1000Mhz on the memory, which as you said is hugely impressive. But will it actually be worth it? That's the issue I have. If AMD's advancements were so impressive, why bother clocking that high? It's clear to me that it's because it's not enough, not with current drivers.
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/109078-asus-radeon-rx-vega-64-strix-gaming/?page=8
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
The fact you can increase your architecture's frequency from a mere 1050mhz(this is an evolution of Fiji not Polaris) to nearly 2ghz, is a feat in itself. All while improving performance probably about 50% while decreasing power consumption.
