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Old 06-11-15, 03:06 PM
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AMD faces suit over alleged misrepresentation of Bulldozer CPUs

AMD is now facing a lawsuit over "deceptive marketing" of their Bulldozer CPUs, with claims that their 8-core Bulldozer based CPUs are in fact Quad core CPUs as each core doesn't work entirely independently.



Read more on AMD's lawsuit over the deceptive marketing of Bulldozer based CPUs.

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So they are sueing over old news and facts we all already know... Good luck with that.

They have 4 modules which carry 2 cores each, they have never been true 8 core CPUs, AMD have never hidden this fact, so trying to sue is futile.
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So they are sueing over old news and facts we all already know... Good luck with that.

They have 4 modules which carry 2 cores each, they have never been true 8 core CPUs, AMD have never hidden this fact, so trying to sue is futile.
It is very silly, as while Bulldozer is not a traditional 8-core design it is by no means a quad core.

Yes they have two cores which share resources, but that does not mean that it is only one core. Hell can I argue that intel's 5960K is a single core CPU by arguing that all the cores share the same L3 cache?
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Murica sue everything syndrome that's all that's happening, I facepalm ed so hard when I read about this
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Surely it should be faced as the case was already thrown out?
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the main issue here is. AMD were the ones to try and define what a core actually was back in the pentium D days..
And well.. if you go by their own argument of what a core is then you have to say that its a quad core with extra bits. but the extra bits do not add up to a core either so cant be called 5 core or 6 core either.

personally i never called them 8 core they just aren't. I have had that argument over at tech power up and just gave up in the end.
But By traditional terms. my terms. and AMD's terms during p4/pd era they are not 8 core. To me its like amd HT. but the HT has a bit more help from the cpu.
(its actually works a lot more like ht than you may expect due to missing parts being shared meaning one module cant do 2 similar threads at the same time because parts it needs to use are already in use. windows did update it so threads tried to use a new module instead of a visible core to compensate. but it is a lot more like HT than 8 actual cores if it can only do the work load if its not that busy)
Amd did know the limits of it, but just decided the the work that would get cued up if it came along in multiple threads was unlikely to come along in multiple threads.

*It is not HT btw, totally different things work differently everything is different apart from the outcome. but as amd never named it something like: possible thread processing, i'm stuck with using HT to describe it*

Unless there is a legal definition of what a core is however. then nothing other than defining what a core is will come of it (if even that)
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It's only ever the lawyers that truly win in these cases, big, big bucks for them!
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Just people trying to make money for stupid reasons. It won't hold up in court. It's a waste of time and money for everyone.
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