More Nvidia Cards Reported to Be Failing
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Bell-curve being an exponential one that doesn`t go to infinity ? - however also goes back down on the other side ?
Being that, if u bought early u have more change of a good card - whereas if u bought l8 on, ur chances of a duff card increase dramatically.
Sounds as if 4 of their partners are outlining these increasingly high failure rates, I`d be interested in knowing who they are. If we can find out these details, we must be aware of their sources.
I would also like to point out that nVidia brought out a driverset for this generation of card(s), the 169.25 (including 5 or so revisions around it), that (without official confirmation), crippled nVidia cards when under stress - leading to a crash to desktop, often with a popup of a "recovery". If u shipped ur card with these drivers, or they were "the latest driver" at the time of RMA - as a gfxcard manufacturer ur knackered.
174.xx can along and wiped the slate clean.
Certainly stressful.
Being that, if u bought early u have more change of a good card - whereas if u bought l8 on, ur chances of a duff card increase dramatically.
Sounds as if 4 of their partners are outlining these increasingly high failure rates, I`d be interested in knowing who they are. If we can find out these details, we must be aware of their sources.
I would also like to point out that nVidia brought out a driverset for this generation of card(s), the 169.25 (including 5 or so revisions around it), that (without official confirmation), crippled nVidia cards when under stress - leading to a crash to desktop, often with a popup of a "recovery". If u shipped ur card with these drivers, or they were "the latest driver" at the time of RMA - as a gfxcard manufacturer ur knackered.
174.xx can along and wiped the slate clean.
Certainly stressful.
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Holy thread revival!
Been reading some newsy things this morning, in particular:
ATI 3870s fail too !
It dawns on me that I haven`t heard anything, witnessed anything, dealt with anything, regarding any nVidia cards/laptops falling over. Sure I`ve heard of doas - u get doas everywhere. And the reports were of the tech stretching back to the generation b4 last.
I see this article about ATI, and it immediately starts off with nVidia`s failure record, woeful service.. - eh ? nVidia fanbois ? From perhaps an ATI fanboi ? I dunno, but it`s irresponsible if ur claiming to be a `reporter` to show a personal favorite.
Just made me chortle a bit, as if we take reports such as these about ATI/nVidia/etc, they would have us believe that the industry is extremely flakey, and it isn`t.
U get failures - they happen. U also get in this day`n`age a breed of customer who believe they`re full of entitlement, over-proportionally or realistic, and with the anonymous right to voice their slanderous, often grossly incorrect, opinion without reproach on the net. U can spot these people from reading a handful of lines on their forum posts.
"nVidia - yeah they suck, had 3 cards off them and they all failed - I`ll never get one of those again !"
.. but what u don`t know if that this is the person`s first build/install. The first card was an pcie and their Dell had an agp, they get another and dont attach a rear power to the card, 3rd time they knock the cpu cooler and the Dell fails to boot at-all. (ofc u don`t get to read any of this with the post, cost they wouldn`t admit it. they know everything, they do nothing wrong and every1 else is.) - there on in tho, 3 cards returned and a lifetime of bad nVidia posts. Happens that they got a repaired pc or a new one, bought an ATI card (that was luckily the right one), and it worked - even tho they still never put the power in the rear, but procede to splam forums about `why my 4870 isnt running fast! - effing DELL!!!` (procede with bad Dell posts) and on, and on, and on. .....
YAY revival thread into a rant !
Been reading some newsy things this morning, in particular:
ATI 3870s fail too !
It dawns on me that I haven`t heard anything, witnessed anything, dealt with anything, regarding any nVidia cards/laptops falling over. Sure I`ve heard of doas - u get doas everywhere. And the reports were of the tech stretching back to the generation b4 last.
I see this article about ATI, and it immediately starts off with nVidia`s failure record, woeful service.. - eh ? nVidia fanbois ? From perhaps an ATI fanboi ? I dunno, but it`s irresponsible if ur claiming to be a `reporter` to show a personal favorite.
Just made me chortle a bit, as if we take reports such as these about ATI/nVidia/etc, they would have us believe that the industry is extremely flakey, and it isn`t.
U get failures - they happen. U also get in this day`n`age a breed of customer who believe they`re full of entitlement, over-proportionally or realistic, and with the anonymous right to voice their slanderous, often grossly incorrect, opinion without reproach on the net. U can spot these people from reading a handful of lines on their forum posts.
"nVidia - yeah they suck, had 3 cards off them and they all failed - I`ll never get one of those again !"
.. but what u don`t know if that this is the person`s first build/install. The first card was an pcie and their Dell had an agp, they get another and dont attach a rear power to the card, 3rd time they knock the cpu cooler and the Dell fails to boot at-all. (ofc u don`t get to read any of this with the post, cost they wouldn`t admit it. they know everything, they do nothing wrong and every1 else is.) - there on in tho, 3 cards returned and a lifetime of bad nVidia posts. Happens that they got a repaired pc or a new one, bought an ATI card (that was luckily the right one), and it worked - even tho they still never put the power in the rear, but procede to splam forums about `why my 4870 isnt running fast! - effing DELL!!!` (procede with bad Dell posts) and on, and on, and on. .....
YAY revival thread into a rant !
I think you raise a valid point that some people may break their computers because of a lack of experience. Hardware issues do occur (I have had to RMA my Striker II Extreme after about 14 days and my pico ITX after 7 in separate issues) but sometimes the weak link is the bit between the chair and the keyboard.
I have no doubt that there is a higher than normal rate of 92 and 94 based chip failiure, but some people will see these reports and RMA their board claiming "yeah, its a bad batch or summat" when they may well be at fault.
Unless a hardware failiure is obvious (e.g. scorch marks on an overclocked processor or a broken PCB, it can be hard to tell what the problem is especially if the device is completely dead.
I have no doubt that there is a higher than normal rate of 92 and 94 based chip failiure, but some people will see these reports and RMA their board claiming "yeah, its a bad batch or summat" when they may well be at fault.
Unless a hardware failiure is obvious (e.g. scorch marks on an overclocked processor or a broken PCB, it can be hard to tell what the problem is especially if the device is completely dead.
I had two of both 8800GTX and 8600GTS, both would throw up tons of BSOD.
Been the parts hoarder that i was i was able to switch out every component to see what was wrong.
Such is life, but i still went out and bought two GTX 280's.
With high failure rates on the Nvidia side could this not push them into real business trouble, like closure?
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Been the parts hoarder that i was i was able to switch out every component to see what was wrong.
Such is life, but i still went out and bought two GTX 280's.
With high failure rates on the Nvidia side could this not push them into real business trouble, like closure?
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name='k4p84' said:
How big were the failure rates ?
Rastalovich
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name='k4p84' said:
Thats another thing see. If we say 'high failure rate' and we dont know the numbers, we too are being alarmist.
If it is was as it seemed, which is mainly oem, and speculatively desktop cards - which nVidia 'refused?' to comment on, we could be talking about 10,000 pcbs out of 50,000,000 - which is a small number. If we dont know the numbers and thus the whole picture, "high failure rate" is unsubstantiated. But it will be picked up by any1 reading anything on the internet and carried onwards.
Now if a single batch of a certain delivery "fell off the back of the wagon" when the forktruck driver was getting over a hang-over and loading. He stacks them back up and delivers them - theres another situation. They happened to be destined to 3 oem clients - situation explained.
Without the detailed information also on the desktop problems, how can we or the reporter claim awful customer service ? In the sense of creating driverset 169.25, fair enough, it killed many a gaming experience. Other than that, my XFX card developes a problem and I call nVidia ? Well no 1stly I contact the retailer, and if I'm way out of the buying period, I contact the manufacturer, XFX. Which also means I've installed the card and its worked well for months.... and I swear I never modded it, oc'd it or hit it with a hammer.
