MSI has a novel solution to 12VHPWR cable insertion problems

MSI's new MAG A850GL PCIE5 ATX 3.0 power supply helps users avoid cable insertion issues.



Have a look at MSI's innovative new 12VHPWR cables.

Yeah...Nope. This is not an issue with people not plugging in the cables all the way, or a cable issue. This is a NVIDIA issue and they need to take ownership for this fiasco as it is 100% their fault for all this.


The yellow will turn black soon enough.....with SOOT.

Digikid said:

Yeah...Nope. This is not an issue with people not plugging in the cables all the way, or a cable issue. This is a NVIDIA issue and they need to take ownership for this fiasco as it is 100% their fault for all this.

The yellow will turn black soon enough.....with SOOT.

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Nigh on every single time someone reports on a cable melting eventually it comes down to the user not plugging in all the way even if it's as little as 1mm, Very rarely is it an actual fault with the cable.

CableMod a few days ago said out of the plethora of cables they sell only 00.01% are legitimately faulty and 99.99% of the cables going melty have been due to user error.

Should Nvidia have made proper documentation and even a video on how to plug it in correctly ? Yes, As a mate said recently "companies need to treat people like idiots" which they should as most people in life are nice people but most people have no common sense or critical thinking skills.

I don't agree fully myself as we've been using 8pins for ages not only do they look better not being slap bang in the middle of the card due to cost cutting on a board, but you didn't see anything about cables melting and i expect that has happened at some point.

imho it's a stupid connector that in my view doesn't provide anything, same as the trend moving towards having tons of PSU functions on the motherboard, omg it'll make them expensive and for what reason, seems form factor is part of it.

I honestly think regardless of how you can say it's user error or not, if you asked most people would you prefer 8pins at the end out of the way most would say yes, thing is Nvidia is all about making something and telling you it's the best rather than asking what you want, i know this as i'm part of the insider program and it's all about marketing over esports and nothing about products.

Sure AI is saving them now, but after a single yes 1 person waiting in the heart of tokyo for that 4060ti on launch day, nvidia best change they are selling next to nothing, like i'd said several times the 4090 is the only card worth buying as it actually provides something over last gen.

Still they aren't in the trouble Intel are atm, but it can always change, tbh i feel Nvidia has had a massive backlash and if you'd heard jensun speak at computex he seems completly unaware and is 100% focused on AI.

That 12pin connector thou, i've hated it from the start for one reason it's in the middle of the card like a big ugly thumb, hardly good design by any means.

Using adaptors or buying a new PSU might as well be Apple 2.0.

Dicehunter said:

Nigh on every single time someone reports on a cable melting eventually it comes down to the user not plugging in all the way even if it's as little as 1mm, Very rarely is it an actual fault with the cable.

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When a design is prone to causing user error, the fault is on the design not on the user!

I've said this before here and i'm saying it again it IS all NVIDIA's fault! They've designed a cable that goes against ALL previous knowledge and experience and while telling everyone about it, as you suggested, is damn sure the least they could do, it is not enough! It would never be,

I've been building PCs for the last 15 years or so and if I was one of the first persons to get this conector I would probably not plug it all the way in! I'm to the point I don't even look at the conections I make I know how much force I should use on them and I make sure to apply more than that, but these 12pin conectors require easily twice that force, it's enough to make me feel unconfortable applying such force from fear of breaking a solder joint.

And that's all for nothing because the common 8-pin PCI-E conector can easily handle this amount of power, they didn't need to add more pins, neither did they need to make it smaller, simply changing the keying on the pins woudl suffice to separate the high-power 8 pin to the normal 8-pin, they coudl've revised it just a little to further increse it's power handling capability as to avoid exactly this issue, because part of the reason the 8-PIN conector is so resilient is that while it is rated for only 150W, it is capable of handling 800W, so even if the conection isn't perfect it will still most likelly work fine as it is being operated well unders it's actual engineered power capacity.

What NVIDIA did was create a conector that's built to handle exactly 600W and then rate it and specify it for 600W meaning any small defect or user error, or simply variance will cause it to fail! That's really, really dumb and bad engineering. While the commons 8-pin is really really smart engineering avoiding issues even in the face of user error.