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Old 28-01-16, 05:13 PM
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Can you build a RIG Cheaper than the Stores

Right then boys and girls, this is not my usual area of expertise but spurred on by Feronix' old build guides and watching Linus's recent video I wondered the very same thing Linus did and also it dawned on me that quite a fair few people often wonder the same.

Can you build a rig cheaper than a store bought system?

Now in Linus's video he bought the Asus M32CD Desktop system (specs below) which was from a reputable dealer within the frozen wastelands of Canada for around $1000 (Canadian dollars) .


ASUS M32CD desktop PC
Intel i5 6400 (Stock Cooler)
8gb RAM
1tb HDD
Intel H110 motherboard
AMD R9 370 2gb
500w Delta PSU
case and OS

I figured this was a nice starting point and so went on the search for an equivalent system, after a quick Google I found the same Asus M32CD desktop system but in the meatier EU configuration and from the store we all love to ridicule for their uber knowledge and advice, PCWorld.

Well here it is:

The PCWorld Asus M32CD.

Intel i7 6700
16 GB RAM
2 TB HDD
Intel H110 Motherboard
Nvidia GT730 2GB
300W Delta PSU
Case, Keyboard, Mouse & OS (Windows 10)
Warranty 1 Year

Total £799.99.

So with this in mind, it got me thinking some more and after clicking the advert at the top of the forums I gave PCSPECIALIST a good old clicking and configured their Vortex 1000 Gaming system to match the PCWorld ready built unit and here's what I ended up with.

PCSPECIALIST Vortex 1000 Gaming PC.


Intel i7 6700
16 GB Fury HyperX 2133MHz RAM
2 TB HDD
Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 3
Nvidia GT730 1GB
Corsair VS-350W PSU
Corsair 230T Case
OS (Windows 10 64Bit Home Edition)
Warranty 3 Years

Total £824.00

Very interesting findings right off the bat! The hardware in the PCSPECIALIST rig is easily well worth the extra £24 you'd pay and the 2 extra years of warranty too! So here comes the crunch, can you build this rig cheaper than the shop bought pre built equivalents, for this I'll be using old faithful PCPartPicker.

Lets find out: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/H2jncf

Intel i7 6700
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI
16 GB Fury HyperX 2133MHz RAM
2 TB Western Digital Black Edition HDD
Nvidia GT730 2GB
Corsair CX 430W PSU
Corsair Spec-02 Case
OS (Windows 8.1).

Total £814.37

Now it's clear that it is slightly cheaper but not by much, take away the fact that you'll be building this yourself and factor in the cheaper OS and free upgrade option to Windows 10 which is always a smart move and that is pretty much the only deciding factor on price.

So is it worth it? That depends on you, are you savvy enough to build the system yourself and do you delight in being the master of your rig?

There are so many deciding factors to take from this little exercise, component quality, upgradeability, value for money, warranty. After looking over the 3 systems I'm kicking PCWorld out the door straight away, the Intel H110 Motherboard and 1 Year warranty are pathetic sorry Asus, yes it's cheaper but for what? The PCSPECIALIST rig is I must say brilliant and I'm not being biased here just look for your self, high end components, upgradeability and a healthy warranty plus if you're not the techiest of tech people it's all built ready to go out of the box.

So in conclusion can you build a PC cheaper than the store bought pre built systems... £10 says you can!

Thoughts below as always.

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Old 28-01-16, 08:04 PM
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Paying for the OS doesn't have too be THAT expensive, if you are willing to buy from /r/microsoftsoftwareswap.

Oh btw wraith, I think that you could save a bit more on that system if you went for an H110 motherboard

Sometimes prebuilts -and that's the case in greece- are HORRIBLE, bad OEM or noname PSUs... unreliable motherboards etc...

For example there's a BIG huuuge retailer in Greece whose prebuilt systems sometimes make no sense. A system with an r9 370 an fx6300 -that they market that you can overclock it- with a gigabyte motherboard that isn't even on the 9xx chipsets and ofc no vrm cooler on that thing, and a "FORCE 600W" PSU that I bet isn't even capable of 400Watts of stable power. you have to be really lucky for that thing to not go nuclear on your desk

PS more examples to come when I have some free time.
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Old 28-01-16, 08:42 PM
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Assuming all your parts come from one supplier and are 'pick up' then it's a no brainer. If you have to buy online and factor in several delivery fees it may be different.

The things you haven't touched on (and are probably not the intent of the post) are the pro's and cons of doing it yourself.

Lack of warranty and fear of stuffing things up versus the fact that every time you power on or look at your rig you get to say "yeah I made that" and the satisfaction that brings. Also it's a very good learning experience.

In regards to warranty I've had store bought pcs lose a drive and had to return the whole rig to the repair centre for a week, if you build yourself and a component fails you are just without that component for the RMA (which could take longer admittedly)
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Old 28-01-16, 08:54 PM
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the HUGE + points for getting a prebuild pc or letting the store build your pc is. You can be 100% that every single part should work fine. no faults or hardware thats DOA or ready to RMA.

Even if it happens, the shop itself provides warranty itself for the whole system and parts in it, so thats somekind of double safe. Even cables you should need in theorie to connect parts that are normally missing because they were not provided by the manufacturer will be provided by the shop itself without an extra cost, thats atleast what we do ^^
There comes more in a prebuild PC than widely known

You just have to pay that little extra ofc

On topic though ; nice founds Wraith!
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Old 29-01-16, 03:12 AM
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We also have the added issue with store bought of who is the OEM of the system? i.e most Dell or HP systems I've had in the past or had to do service/upgrade work on recently are a nightmare with their custom proprietary bios or hardware that's been hot glued to the motherboard to stop you going third party for upgrades.
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Old 29-01-16, 08:37 AM
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The PC Specialist kit is actually spot on, they dont sell any tat either.

Not like some of the SI's Ive known in the UK.

I think the point in buying one built is because you dont want or know how to build your own plus you get warranty
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part price v part price you can't really beat the PC specialist one. If you were to go for similar parts I reckon you could get better bang for buck however.
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Old 29-01-16, 12:19 PM
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The PC Specialist kit is actually spot on, they dont sell any tat either.

Not like some of the SI's Ive known in the UK.

I think the point in buying one built is because you dont want or know how to build your own plus you get warranty
Aye this is so true other than Ginger6, PCSPECIALIST is awesome sauce for build quality, parts, labor and shipping all in the price is amazing, I had a friend ask me before Christmas about a local store system for their son who only plays Minecraft and I did manage to build them a much neater faster system for much less.

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part price v part price you can't really beat the PC specialist one. If you were to go for similar parts I reckon you could get better bang for buck however.
I could very well have gone down the alternative hardware route i.e i5 6400, GTX 750 Ti, 8 GB RAM and 1 TB HDD and come out cheaper still and it would have had more gaming grunt, but I wanted to keep the build within the store specs to see if it could be done.

Consequently had I altered the hardware here's what I would have achieved http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/Xs98nQ all for £614.11
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Old 29-01-16, 11:12 PM
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It's a great analysis you done and the result you've found is the reason why I stopped building systems for people years ago - there's not much money in it for the home builder. The stores that do it take their profit from the individual components.

I also stopped because folk wanted cheap computers around the £400 mark, and they are just dumb-ass boring to build. Then there's the support if something goes wrong...
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Interesting article Wraith, I've done some upgrades in the past on systems like, Dell, HP and Compaq and they were an absolute nightmare. I like to build my own systems not only because I enjoy it but it for the sense of achievement it brings. Reading your article it's good to see PC Specialist is a good option for those who just want to purchase one straight out.
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