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Old 09-07-19, 06:48 PM
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Ryzen 3000 / X570 memory

I have a 3800X and a Gigabyte Aorus 1TB NVMe on order. I'll order the Asus VIII Impact DTX board when it's available. Looking at memory it seems 3600 is a good spot to buy.

I found a cheap set of Crucial Ballistix Elite for $149. It's a 16GB kit with 16-18-18 timings. Everything else in that range looks to be around $300. What am I missing here?

Link: https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16g...82E16820164149

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Old 09-07-19, 07:16 PM
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As far as my knowledge goes, I can't seem to find anything out of the ordinary. Maybe this specific kit is just on a sale at the moment?...
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Old 09-07-19, 07:22 PM
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tiny bit more but better timings.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team-...my-08q-tg.html
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Old 09-07-19, 07:39 PM
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Thanks, doesn't look like they're available until the 19th. I can't even find them listed on any US sites yet. I did order the Ballistix, but I doubt that motherboard is coming out before August anyway so I do have time to exchange them if something better comes along. I'll keep an eye out for those.
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Old 09-07-19, 07:44 PM
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I'd hold out for better timings. From what I'm reading, X570 is now able to do nice tight CL14 level timings at 3600mhz. Unless you're *really* cash-strapped, I'd be looking for 3200CL14 at a minimum. Not sure how much the future will change this, but it also appears going over 3600mhz, and using an infinity fabric clock that ISN'T 1 to 1, you take a performance hit. Apparently having a 1:1 clock ratio at 3600 *appears* to be the sweet spot and offers the best memory performance.

Obviously that might change in the future as BIOSes mature, but after owning both Ryzen generations, tight timings are a must. They have a big impact on overall CPU performance.
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I'd hold out for better timings. From what I'm reading, X570 is now able to do nice tight CL14 level timings at 3600mhz. Unless you're *really* cash-strapped, I'd be looking for 3200CL14 at a minimum. Not sure how much the future will change this, but it also appears going over 3600mhz, and using an infinity fabric clock that ISN'T 1 to 1, you take a performance hit. Apparently having a 1:1 clock ratio at 3600 *appears* to be the sweet spot and offers the best memory performance.

Obviously that might change in the future as BIOSes mature, but after owning both Ryzen generations, tight timings are a must. They have a big impact on overall CPU performance.
There's not a lot out there as far as benchmarks go, but the ones I did find showed 3600 with 17-19-19-39 timings getting 3-5 more FPS (most of the games tested) at 1080P than 3200 with 14-14-14-34 timings. Not sure how that changes at 1440p which is what I game at.

At least with the delay on the board it gives more time for other benchmarks and user reviews to come out to shed more light on it.
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Yeah waiting for info is never a bad idea. My logic is that if your ram is rated CL14 at 3200, it will probably do [email protected] without issue, maybe CL16 at worst. So you'd still be better off than CL19, you just might have to tinker with the timings yourself.
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Blah see if you can find these on your side of the pond https://www.ple.com.au/Products/6245...dent-Z-3733MHz
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