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The most basic Schiit stack would have cost me just over double what this cost and as this is a direct clone of a Beyerdynamic AMP/DAC that costs £1500 I'm pretty sure this will have pretty good sound especially going by Aliens experience of it
It's not even close to worth $1500 and I guarantee you that an actual schiit stack or really anything would sound better than that beyer crap. You're paying for the name

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It's not even close to worth $1500 and I guarantee you that an actual schiit stack or really anything would sound better than that beyer crap. You're paying for the name
Beyer crap ? Beyerdynamic are definitely not crap, Nigh on every studio in the world uses Beyerdynamic cans for recording and mastering.

Also as I said, The Schiit stack would have cost me over double.

Beyer AMP/DAC = £80

Basic Schiit Stack = £220

Little bit of a price difference.
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It's not even close to worth $1500 and I guarantee you that an actual schiit stack or really anything would sound better than that beyer crap. You're paying for the name
It is impossible for that to be true, unless you have heard the amp. And even then it could be called subjective.

I have three top shelf amps. One if them is one of the most highly praised amps here in the UK and IMO the beyer clone sounds better.

It's like I said before, when you read reviews of the Beyer it is being reviewed as a $1500 amp. Thus it is being compared to other $1500 amps, not $300 ones.

So reviews are going to be immensely critical.

Personally speaking it's my favourite amp. It is not as neutral as my Graham Slee but neutrality can be taken too far and you lose warmth.

Why don't you buy one and try it for yourself? Not exactly a ton of cash.
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Beyer crap ? Beyerdynamic are definitely not crap, Nigh on every studio in the world uses Beyerdynamic cans for recording and mastering.

Also as I said, The Schiit stack would have cost me over double.

Beyer AMP/DAC = £80

Basic Schiit Stack = £220

Little bit of a price difference.
I didn't say they were. I said that amp/dac combo was crap. I own beyer products. Pretty sure you started a thread a long time ago asking about gaming headsets or real headphones. I told you get the beyer DT line. Beyer are my favorite. However I'm not biased towards any company. I point out faults

I understand you said double. It only seems worth it because it's supposed to be$1500. I doubt it's much better than a Fiio e10k that cost around the same amount as your clone.
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I have a Fiio E10K and it this clone is noticeably better, The Beyer AMP/DAC may be a clone but it's a damn good one.
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LOL some one really hates Beyer to be comparing it to an entry level amp. Based purely on spite.
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I have a Fiio E10K and it this clone is noticeably better, The Beyer AMP/DAC may be a clone but it's a damn good one.
I was exaggerting a bit but the point was while I don't doubt it's good I think beyer are crap for pricing it so poorly and trying to rip people off probably what cost them less than $40 to make. This opinion doesn't extend to there headphones though. Which I love my Amiron home headphones
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I was exaggerting a bit but the point was while I don't doubt it's good I think beyer are crap for pricing it so poorly and trying to rip people off probably what cost them less than $40 to make. This opinion doesn't extend to there headphones though. Which I love my Amiron home headphones
I doubt any AMP/DAC really costs more than $20-$40 to make.
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I was exaggerting a bit but the point was while I don't doubt it's good I think beyer are crap for pricing it so poorly and trying to rip people off probably what cost them less than $40 to make. This opinion doesn't extend to there headphones though. Which I love my Amiron home headphones
That isn't the case, though. The power stage in the Beyer is *really* high end and expensive to buy. Mosfet power supplies are, generally. They are also rated very highly for their lack of any background noise, hiss, or hum.

Now sure, a £90 clone will use a much cheaper and more crude power arrangement, but the real deal doesn't. Whether that equates to $1500? never, but it does make for a lovely sounding amp.

Head Fi is really starting to die off now. I think a lot of people have realised that most of it is a con. If you can go and buy a 1kw Cerwin Vega power amp for $300 then why in the name of balls does a tiny headphone amp with hardly anything in it cost £400?

Hifi in general is a rip off. $3000 cables lmfao. For speakers? down to the builder's yard and buy solid copper core mains cable for about 70 pence a metre. Solid copper, can't say fairer than that.

So whilst most of it (well, nearly all of it) is a total rip (I can build a Musical Fidelity clone for about £8 in parts) £90 for a clone really isn't that bad. And it does sound really nice. If I was all about the price tag I would swear up and down that my Graham Slee sounds better and keep using it regardless. But I don't, and I haven't.

I'm going to get the Lehman clone soon. It is the only amp I want to hear now.

But yeah, that Beyer clone and the T5P are a match made in heaven. It really is incredible. If I spend a few days at my mother's, then go home and put my cans on? dear god it's like having sex for the first time again.

I've got a pair of Beats Studio here, and they just don't compare in any way shape or form.
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I doubt any AMP/DAC really costs more than $20-$40 to make.
Oh they definitely do lol
I just doubt the official beyer amp/dac does!
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