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It's a decent increase but it's just not good enough. I expected better. Now had they priced it at $600 instead of 700 that would had made a good difference for sure, but right now it seems to me that AMD is content on safely being no.2.
And are these numbers in 4K or in what resolution exactly? Can't find the answer in the article.
Of course the games I play are all the ones with the least performance increase![]()
No, but AMD has occasionally delivered decent price to performance. Like $500 for a 2080 competitor would've been a game changer. But obviously that 16GB doesn't come cheap and you do need that for the bandwidth. Like, if they added compression tech to Vega along with the node shrink and could have done away with 8GB, well that could've been interesting.Was anyone actually expecting AMD to have a flagship to compete with 2080ti? Lets be realistic, they are still getting over the the past 5 years of having no money..
Was anyone actually expecting AMD to have a flagship to compete with 2080ti? Lets be realistic, they are still getting over the the past 5 years of having no money..
Most people were expecting AMD to come out whit a mid-tier Navi card, so I'm reasonably impressed they just dropped a high-end card without the silly hype train of the first Vega.
If the Radeon 7 was dropped at £600, I would be 100% game, the value proposition would be there, so the price is a little disappointing.. But at least AMD can compete with 90% of Nvidia's product stack... by all means spend £1.2k on a graphics card though lol
They can't make an 8GB version of Vega 7 without cutting off half the memory bandwidth, controller, interposer Ect. With 4 banks/4096 bus width of HBM2 you have 16GB-32GB options using current stacks. If they'd have stuck with only two stacks they'd be stuck with the same bandwidth as Vega1 while having hungrier cores and lots of bandwidth intensive uses nerfed.I think if they released a 8GB version it would probably be cheap enough that the lower price point and sell more.
They can't make an 8GB version of Vega 7 without cutting off half the memory bandwidth, controller, interposer Ect. With 4 banks/4096 bus width of HBM2 you have 16GB-32GB options using current stacks. If they'd have stuck with only two stacks they'd be stuck with the same bandwidth as Vega1 while having hungrier cores and lots of bandwidth intensive uses nerfed.
As I said, not possible(I mean, we wouldn't be having this discussion if such a common sense solution was possible). HBM2 ships in a minimum stack height of 4-Hi (I don't think anyone actually made any 2-Hi HBM2 beyond demonstrations, it's certainly not in any kind of volume production, and it seems to have been dropped from the HBM2 spec entirely), it's more or less necessary to keep the 8 channels well fed, which means a minimum of 4GB per stack, which means a minimum of 16GB if you want a 4096-bit bus.No. You simply use less memory per stack.
Was anyone actually expecting AMD to have a flagship to compete with 2080ti? Lets be realistic, they are still getting over the the past 5 years of having no money..
Most people were expecting AMD to come out whit a mid-tier Navi card, so I'm reasonably impressed they just dropped a high-end card without the silly hype train of the first Vega.
If the Radeon 7 was dropped at £600, I would be 100% game, the value proposition would be there, so the price is a little disappointing.. But at least AMD can compete with 90% of Nvidia's product stack... by all means spend £1.2k on a graphics card though lol
The issue isn't just AMD or Nvidia though. A lot of it has to do with currency conversion rates, expensive coolers, new taxes, and dealer markup (Brexit and Trump basically).
Trumps trade war with China increased the cost of finished electronics SKUs across the whole globe due to how much of it flows in between the two countries during tthe production process, with the BOM cost of some parts prior to manufacture rising 25-30%.While Trump may have hurt the prices, everything else is getting cheaper so really it evens out for us Americans, though I do not believe same can be said about Brexit and whatnot.