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Old 27-05-19, 04:26 PM
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Yeah Epyc/SP3 has twice the number of memory channels vs TR4, much more IO bandwidth and most of the market is aimed at dual-socket servers, with a fair few other platform features that don't exist/make much sense on TR4 besides the lack of SP3 consumer boards of course and the inability to get Epyc CPUs actually working in a TR4 board which is very unlikely to change.

Just like with TR4 and AM4, I think they've differentiated the sockets well enough to have core count crossovers while still maintaining a clear performance difference in their target workloads and a big platform & feature difference.

Since they already have 32-core Threadripper parts and want to go higher I'd think 48c was a minimum we can expect, and the only thing that would rule out a 2990WX style 64-core part would be memory bandwidth limitations imo as that part already made big sacrifices to single core performance for the specific target workloads while matching their Epyc line up.

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Old 27-05-19, 06:36 PM
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I predict threadripper to have a core range from 16-24. No reason to go higher. Don't want to ruin Epyc pricing
The 2990WX TR chip has 32 cores so I doubt they would go backwards with their core count, If anything they'll likely do another 32 core thread ripper with slightly higher counts, More cache etc... and leave the higher core counts for Epyc i.e 64 core.
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Old 27-05-19, 07:11 PM
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The 2990WX TR chip has 32 cores so I doubt they would go backwards with their core count, If anything they'll likely do another 32 core thread ripper with slightly higher counts, More cache etc... and leave the higher core counts for Epyc i.e 64 core.
That's a workstation cpu.. I was referring to normal consumer parts. The WX chips are 24-32. X chips are 12-16

I could see the X chips having a range of 20-32 and then the WX chips having a range of 36-48.

This provides each with a bump on cores. Without getting rid of WX all together. If they get rid of WX then sure I could see something like 20-48 or similar.
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Old 27-05-19, 08:16 PM
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The 3700X looks to be the true sweet spot.

8 Cores with a boost of 4.4GHz, a relatively high base and all in a 65W power envelope.

The 3700X along with probably the Asus Strix ITX X570 will be my next rig.

I'll be coming from a 6700k, so I should see a good boost in everything.

Interesting that the 3600X is down as a 95W part.
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Old 27-05-19, 08:33 PM
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Probably for binning reasons, some chips will be a bit "leakier" than others, more efficient 6-core chips would need to go to the 3900X.
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Old 27-05-19, 09:01 PM
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AMD do not need to release 16 core, they are destroying intel with this line up
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Old 27-05-19, 09:03 PM
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AMD do not need to release 16 core, they are destroying intel with this line up
Then adding this on top of it just buries Intel more and makes AMD look even better... driving up sales, building a reputation, etc.
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Old 27-05-19, 11:32 PM
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Quite exciting times for the enthusiast community . It gives me a reason to be selfish and spend some money on new shiny PC components instead of paying for the Mrs luxuries or my daughters lol
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Something I’m wondering about though; Is the 3rd generation soldered IHS as the previous ones or no?...
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Old 28-05-19, 09:00 AM
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Something I’m wondering about though; Is the 3rd generation soldered IHS as the previous ones or no?...
No one knows yet till they get samples in hand
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