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Old 09-06-21, 01:00 PM
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Nvidia RTX 3070 Ti Founders Edition Review



Following the controversial launch of the RTX 3080 Ti, it's time to see what the RTX 3070 Ti brings to the Nvidia party.


Nvidia RTX 3070 Ti Founders Edition Review

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Old 09-06-21, 08:36 PM
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I don't necessarily like drama and seeing a company get hammered, but that was a much deserved scathing review. Ampere started out pretty well, but it's ending with an even bigger whimper than Turing. I hope AMD and Intel can pull Nvidia back from the mire they seem to lavish drowning in.
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I don't necessarily like drama and seeing a company get hammered, but that was a much deserved scathing review. Ampere started out pretty well, but it's ending with an even bigger whimper than Turing. I hope AMD and Intel can pull Nvidia back from the mire they seem to lavish drowning in.
I dont even think it started well. Over 500 people queuing outside a store from 6am when only 30 cards were in stock...

This was the same everywhere. Also stores publicly showing how many cards they ordered for stock vs how many were actually being delivered. I get that its due to silicon shortage, but still it was a terribly managed launch. i think the world was fooled into thinking that they could easily obtain the card they wanted.

Price was also astronomical.


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I'm glad TTL has given it a scathing review. Much like Hardware unboxed don't hold back. These should be honest, unfiltered and as it should be, to steer consumers away from bad products.

I'm tired of seeing reviews give a negative result on a product (as it deserves) but are so nervous, holding back what they want to say in fear of the product manufacterer that it doesnt tell consumers the true result. How many times have we seen a negative review but in the conclusion "well, its overpriced but a nice little performer..." << for the weak willpowered consumer, this is all they want to see to tip them over the balance into spending on a bad product. They want reassurance on the bad decision they are about to make. And carebear reviews trigger this.

How about being honest and literally state "do not buy such an overpriced that yields no benefits, stick to the model that was released 2 months ago." I think reviewers are still partly to blame for companies charging what they want because they fear future products to review being withheld.

This is why im thankful TTL tells it as it is.
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Old 10-06-21, 11:22 AM
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Don’t forget about JayzTwoCents also gave a salty review, basically didn’t want to make an review on it all due to being so tired of it all. Seeing as we all know how it would perform and Nvidia tactics these days.
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Old 10-06-21, 11:40 AM
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Don’t forget about JayzTwoCents also gave a salty review, basically didn’t want to make an review on it all due to being so tired of it all. Seeing as we all know how it would perform and Nvidia tactics these days.
I havent checked many 3070ti reviews. I was speaking in general terms over the past couple of years.

The moment reviewers call a product a bad priced decent performer, consumers use this to justify spending too much and re enforce companies like Nvidia that they can continue to charge such prices, and even push the limit and raise them.

As far as chips go for AIB, Nvidia do not give the AIB manufacturers much "wiggle" room on profits so alot of it carries over in a cost plus style pricing. And even then AIBs will push their luck. Just look at these MSI prices right now.
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I dont even think it started well. Over 500 people queuing outside a store from 6am when only 30 cards were in stock...

This was the same everywhere. Also stores publicly showing how many cards they ordered for stock vs how many were actually being delivered. I get that its due to silicon shortage, but still it was a terribly managed launch. i think the world was fooled into thinking that they could easily obtain the card they wanted.

Price was also astronomical.


That said

I'm glad TTL has given it a scathing review. Much like Hardware unboxed don't hold back. These should be honest, unfiltered and as it should be, to steer consumers away from bad products.

I'm tired of seeing reviews give a negative result on a product (as it deserves) but are so nervous, holding back what they want to say in fear of the product manufacterer that it doesnt tell consumers the true result. How many times have we seen a negative review but in the conclusion "well, its overpriced but a nice little performer..." << for the weak willpowered consumer, this is all they want to see to tip them over the balance into spending on a bad product. They want reassurance on the bad decision they are about to make. And carebear reviews trigger this.

How about being honest and literally state "do not buy such an overpriced that yields no benefits, stick to the model that was released 2 months ago." I think reviewers are still partly to blame for companies charging what they want because they fear future products to review being withheld.

This is why im thankful TTL tells it as it is.
I was thinking more from the perspective of MSRP. The launch has been terrible, but at leas thte 3080 and 3060Ti were well positioned from an MSRP point of view. In ideal circumstances, they would be good cards compared to Turing's appalling cards.
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I was thinking more from the perspective of MSRP. The launch has been terrible, but at leas thte 3080 and 3060Ti were well positioned from an MSRP point of view. In ideal circumstances, they would be good cards compared to Turing's appalling cards.
I think that every single card release since last year, that includes the 30 series and from AMD, has been terrible across the board.
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I still think Ampere is unimpressive tbh. Basically just stuffed more cores and that's it thanks to the shift to 8nm. It was just priced extremely competitive. Well was supposed to be anyway.

AMD launch was also unimpressive. Still not competitive.
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AMD launch was also unimpressive. Still not competitive.

well a supposed to be 1000$ radeon beats a supposed to be 1500$ RTX in rasterization quite often.




just saying.. as content creator i am going for nvidia anyway.
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I still think Ampere is unimpressive tbh. Basically just stuffed more cores and that's it thanks to the shift to 8nm. It was just priced extremely competitive. Well was supposed to be anyway.

AMD launch was also unimpressive. Still not competitive.
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well a supposed to be 1000$ radeon beats a supposed to be 1500$ RTX in rasterization quite often.

just saying.. as content creator i am going for nvidia anyway.

Agreed, Gothmoth. I'd not thought of the content creator case; is the 3090 half as good again at content creation though? Ngreedia have thoroughly peed me off with the 3080Ti. I would not be partng with shekels to them at all unless the card was so and could more than justify its' price. Even then it would have to be EK front and back so at least some of my coin was going to a deserving company.
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