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Old 26-07-17, 03:31 PM
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I am pretty close to Bethesda, and oh how much I'd like to work within the Zenimax family of companies - sent my resume a few times: never heard anything.

Just moved to the area a few months back - be closer to family. Haven't had a chance to visit any museums this time yet - Saw the Enola Gay when when I was 10 years old - still remember it vividly.

Yea, I've decided to go with MSI B350M - Mortar Arctic (yup, paying $10 more for the white board and LEDs, but I think she'll prefer the colors... with the GC and red RAM it'll look like a peppermint.... maybe I'll change that to the regular board and save).

I've read a bit about needing to update the bios on the B350. Can I do this without an older AM4 Chip ?


There's the new build specs. Put the cooler savings back into a better PSU. Also upgraded her speakers (not listed)... her hearing isn't so good... louder the better.

MOBO :

MSI B350M MORTAR ARCTIC $99.99
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-B350M-MOR...dp/B06Y67TLSL/

CPU :

AMD Ryzen 5 1600 Processor with Wraith Spire Cooler $209.99
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor...dp/B06XNRQHG4/

Cooler :

n/a $0.00

RAM :

Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB ) DDR4 $115.88
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Venge...dp/B018EGTEK8/

PSU :
Corsair CX Series 650 $69.99
https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-CX650.../dp/B01B72W1VA

SSD :
Aireye 120GB SATA III $52.99
Crucial MX300 275GB $99.99
https://www.amazon.com/Aireye-120GB-...dp/B01HEAEV0I/
https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX300...dp/B01IAGSD5O/

Case :
Corsair Carbide Series Air 240 $89.99
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbi...dp/B00LA6WXEO/

DVD ROM :
Lite-On Super AllWrite 24X SATA DVD+/- $17.79
https://www.amazon.com/Lite-Super-Al...dp/B002YIG9AQ/

Wifi :
Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I REV $39.99
https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GC-W...dp/B00HF8K0O6/

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Old 26-07-17, 03:55 PM
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Looks great. For ultimate compatibility on the memory though I would go

https://www.amazon.com/G-SKILL-Tride...kill+ddr4+3000

Unless you can 100% verify that the Corsair RAM is OK in that board.

Yes, you can update the bios fine. It was made to run that CPU, so install Windows, install the MSI update app thing and it will do it all for you. This was all my friend had to do to get the RAM running AXMP.

Don't forget you can get the Corsair case in white too, if that tickles your fancy
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Old 26-07-17, 04:22 PM
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That's a relief about the BIOS

The Corsair Ram is
CMK16GX4M2A2400C16R

CMK16GX4M2A2400C16 is listed on the MSI site, to my understanding the 'R' in the above is for RED, the ram cooler cover color. So I think I'm ok. The Red one is 10$ or 15$ cheaper... go figure.
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/supp...#support-mem-2

hmmm. that GSkill ram would be nice to throw in. Another $30 bones to the total. This rig is already alot more machine than she'll know what to do with.... for a while anyway.

I thought about going with the white case to complete the theme. It's $5 cheaper. My worry is it'll look cheap and show any dirt or smudges. I do wonder how the white board will look in a black case, and may just go with black/red themed board. It's incredible how much the aesthetics effect my choices on these things.
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Old 26-07-17, 04:40 PM
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Moms (or mums ) are usually pretty tidy creatures. It shoudn't mark that easily but yeah, can understand.

I really dig this.

https://www.amazon.com/Win-101-White...ords=inwin+101

I just love how the rad mounts
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Old 26-07-17, 04:42 PM
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The G.Skill ram won't matter much if you're not overclocking. If you stick to stock 2133 ram speed, the G.Skill might be a waste of $$$.
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Old 26-07-17, 04:51 PM
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The G.Skill ram won't matter much if you're not overclocking. If you stick to stock 2133 ram speed, the G.Skill might be a waste of $$$.
I would not run less than 3000mhz. It does make quite an impact on Ryzen. It's pretty sluggish with standard 2133 memory, that was a part of the reason I bought Intel because I already had it and Intel is far less fussy as certain elements don't depend on it like Ryzen does.
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Old 26-07-17, 05:01 PM
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I would not run less than 3000mhz. It does make quite an impact on Ryzen. It's pretty sluggish with standard 2133 memory, that was a part of the reason I bought Intel because I already had it and Intel is far less fussy as certain elements don't depend on it like Ryzen does.
But then you're into OCing the RAM, and introducing instability to his Mom's system. It's not sluggish at stock, not true. I'm running mine stock now and it's fine. Just don't do any stupid synthetic benchmarks and you won't even notice.
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Old 26-07-17, 05:10 PM
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But then you're into OCing the RAM, and introducing instability to his Mom's system. It's not sluggish at stock, not true. I'm running mine stock now and it's fine. Just don't do any stupid synthetic benchmarks and you won't even notice.
It's not just synthetics. You get gains across the board (pardon the pun). AXMP will run to 3000mhz easily in that board.
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Old 26-07-17, 06:16 PM
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But then you're into OCing the RAM, and introducing instability to his Mom's system. It's not sluggish at stock, not true. I'm running mine stock now and it's fine. Just don't do any stupid synthetic benchmarks and you won't even notice.
He'll be fine with 2933. His mom is going to keep this system a long time. Having Overkill now just means it'll last longer and stay fast. If for some reason it becomes unstable he can just lower the clocks. It's better to have more headroom than none.
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I'll admit, alot of what you guys are talking about is over my head.

As per aboveI was going with Corsair Vengeance 2400.
The board supports
1866/ 2133/ 2400/ 2667(OC)/ 2933(OC)/ 3200(OC)+ Mhz

@AlienALX - i like that case, and I'd like to play up the 'snow' look, but it's mid-tower, and I'm trying to keep this thing tiny. I talked to her also about color, since the monitor, keyboard, printer, etc are all black she wants to stick with a black case.

I just realized, the Air 250 case doesn't have a slot for an optical drive. I'm thinking to get her an external. Anyone have a suggestion for something with a similar form factor and included fans (it comes with 3x 120mm) in few minutes before i order?
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