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Old 27-05-14, 11:34 AM
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My main concern at the moment is that while AMD keeps their tools open (Mantle, TressFX, etc, all useable by other manufacturers), nVidia has total lockdown over Gameworks. Obviously they want to force people to buy their product, but this is not healthy for the gaming market at all, and if AMD didn't have a lot of income via consoles for the next 8 years, I'd be very worried about a monopoly. Either way, it's ty practice, and I won't be buying nVidia cards because of it. The G-Sync was just the start, clearly.

And let's not forget that Unreal Engine 4 has Gameworks built into it's core. That's not going to be good news.
Unreal has always had an Nvidia bias to it, never really had any major issues with it in the past and I'm sure devs will work around gameworks somehow. AMD will continue to do well as not everyone will take up gameworks and for all we know this might just be another G-sync goof.

All AMD need to do is to become the best option for open source OS and they'll do just as well, perhaps better.

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Old 27-05-14, 11:39 AM
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As I have said many times on the forums Nvidia Gameworks is a huge anti-competitive move from Nvidia. This essentially makes Nvidia dictate AMDs performance in Nvidia branded games, without giving AMD the proper tools to improve it.

This is the same situation as AC4, where AMD were screwed performance wise. At least AMD branded games allowed Nvidia to remain competitive as far as performance and driver optimization goes. AC4 still doesn't have an optimized AMD driver or decent CF profiles, good thing amd manages something with Watch Dogs.

Something will need to stop Nvidia from continuing with this frankly wrong and anti-competitive business move. PC gaming is in many ways about choice, of hardware, cost, graphical settings/performance and that is before we go into PC game or hardware modding, If Nvidia continue down this route us as PC gamers will have less options in the future, which is a very bad thing.
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Old 27-05-14, 02:24 PM
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Disappointing and anti-competitive.
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Old 27-05-14, 06:28 PM
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If this is going the way I think it is I'll need to find myself a new hobby, I can't stand this blatant slap in the face to the consumer. I also can't see the 'gamer' consumer voting with their wallets and not buy into this for the greater good of the gaming industry. As a poster above stated, money talks!

This really sucks especially knowing UT4 has gameworks optimisations and how popular that game engine will be.

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If Star Citizen bends to the AMD side, you might see a bit of a red shift.
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Old 27-05-14, 09:39 PM
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If Star Citizen bends to the AMD side, you might see a bit of a red shift.
I can't see the devs of SC douching half their audience.
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Old 27-05-14, 09:47 PM
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Ya read this story a couple days ago. Never will i buy a Nvidia card from now on unless they change their ways. And to think i was about to get buy two cards from them... not anymore!
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Old 27-05-14, 09:55 PM
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Is this really gonna word? HardOCP did a GPU performance overview of Watchdogs and the AMD R9 290X beat a GTX780Ti in 2 of the 3 comparisons but in all of them there wasnt that big a difference anyway so youre still getting a $500 AMD GPU beating a $650 Nvidia card. If Nvidia is doing something to shut out AMD and rigging games to where their cards perform best, it seems like theyre doing it wrong.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/...ance_preview/3
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All I see is Nvidia GPUs costing more and more. Nvidia is doing this so they can justify the price of their GPUs. Price for performance is already pretty terrible with Nvidia, now they need to justify it. If they keep buying out technologies that AMD doesn't have that devs like using that terrible price for performance will be justified by the features. PhysX, is, and will always will be a flop.
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Old 28-05-14, 05:47 AM
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Is this really gonna word? HardOCP did a GPU performance overview of Watchdogs and the AMD R9 290X beat a GTX780Ti in 2 of the 3 comparisons but in all of them there wasnt that big a difference anyway so youre still getting a $500 AMD GPU beating a $650 Nvidia card. If Nvidia is doing something to shut out AMD and rigging games to where their cards perform best, it seems like theyre doing it wrong.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/...ance_preview/3
These guys found the same thing:
http://www.techspot.com/review/827-w...rks/page3.html

The 290/290X are right up there with the Titan/780/780Ti...
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