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Old 28-04-20, 11:30 PM
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I did a lot of benching recently in regards to timings. I run mine at 3600 CL15 ATM. I can probably go lower, because my RAM is 4133 so with lower clocks means tight timings.

It really does become diminishing returns. So I would make sure it's stable, then leave it alone.

And no, I would not upgrade the kit. Keep hold of it for now. Like I said, you are talking fractions here. Very small ones.



Mine is highlighted orange. I then lowered them to 16 across the board and pretty much matched the guy above me, but even at 15 I got maybe 1% better score.
So I found out this is kinda my fault. This ram kit is on QVL for this bored and the 2000 series...buttttt the timings that it is validated for is 18-18-18-38. Not 16-18-18-38, which is what it comes as standard. I'm going to do the Ryzen Memory calculator tomorrow to get the perfect timings for this kit/course combo. But right now just finished memtest and changing the cl to 18 alone fixed the memory.

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Old 28-04-20, 11:36 PM
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So I found out this is kinda my fault. This ram kit is on QVL for this bored and the 2000 series...buttttt the timings that it is validated for is 18-18-18-38. Not 16-18-18-38, which is what it comes as standard. I'm going to do the Ryzen Memory calculator tomorrow to get the perfect timings for this kit/course combo. But right now just finished memtest and changing the cl to 18 alone fixed the memory.
Awesome, well I am glad we cracked it because stuff like this can send one around the bend tbh.

My 4133 RAM will DOCP or whatever it's called, but you get a red warning telling you that you are overclocking something and it may not POST. Which it then doesn't lmao.

The dumb part is I paid less for it on sale than 3600 RAM exactly the same. Then again thankfully I do know how to input timings and clocks etc or it would be running 2133 now.

But yeah, on memory the limits are not really the memory itself. Ryzen was always picky. It's only really on 3000 you can buy pretty much anything and get it to work.
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Old 28-04-20, 11:56 PM
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I also went 4133 patriot viper steel and at 55£ they sure were a steal
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Old 29-04-20, 12:07 AM
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Yeah. I guess they realised that AMD users may well send them back lol.

As I say though, great for super tight timings.
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Old 29-04-20, 05:51 AM
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No dude that's not what I meant. 2000 series were still "3000 or 3200 if lucky". What I meant was the memory controller may not like the timings.

So yeah, 3200 @ 18 may be better, or 3000 @ 16 or the memory could well be stuffed.
My point about it being lesser ram is that if it was, say b-die, 3200 @ 16 would probably be kosher. But the timings are a dead giveaway that it's something else.



But glad it's sorted.
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Old 29-04-20, 10:19 AM
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Okay I have a question. I have been running this system in error for a hot minute. I am not noticing anything extremely off now but would it be a safe bet to just reinstall Windows?
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Old 29-04-20, 02:27 PM
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Okay I have a question. I have been running this system in error for a hot minute. I am not noticing anything extremely off now but would it be a safe bet to just reinstall Windows?
You can do. "bad" (or not functioning correctly) RAM can corrupt files. Especially the ones it was reading and writing to whilst the memory was not working correctly.
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Old 29-04-20, 04:46 PM
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Okay I have a question. I have been running this system in error for a hot minute. I am not noticing anything extremely off now but would it be a safe bet to just reinstall Windows?
You can run a system file integrity check: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...m-file-checker


Windows 8 article is more verbose: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...rrupted-system
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