Palit RTX 2080 Ti and RTX 2080 GAMINGPRO GPUs pictured

stealth80 said:
I thought it was already known that the 2080 would be 8gb or 16gb? so why is this 11gb?
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The 2080 is 8GB

The 2080ti is 11GB

Both of these are exactly the same GB as their previous gen counterparts (1080 - 8GB and the 1080ti - 11GB).

Not sure where you heard they would be 8 / 16 GB....not that I would mind that :D I think 11GB is kinda silly, always have...but it'll be whatever it'll be.

Not like any games for a few years from now will even remotely take use of 11GB so the higher cost to put in an extra 5GB when it most likely won't even be used just seems silly.
 
Darkdayzzz said:
The 2080 is 8GB

The 2080ti is 11GB

Both of these are exactly the same GB as their previous gen counterparts (1080 - 8GB and the 1080ti - 11GB).

Not sure where you heard they would be 8 / 16 GB....not that I would mind that :D I think 11GB is kinda silly, always have...but it'll be whatever it'll be.

Not like any games for a few years from now will even remotely take use of 11GB so the higher cost to put in an extra 5GB when it most likely won't even be used just seems silly.
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Im not convinced by all this, id be very surprised if Nvidia launch the ti alongside the vanilla, I smell photoshop
 
stealth80 said:
Im not convinced by all this, id be very surprised if Nvidia launch the ti alongside the vanilla, I smell photoshop
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From what I can understand they are indeed going to release a Ti soon but it won't be a full fat Ti like you were used to in the past. And they will get another round of cards out of this tech, and another Ti.
 
stealth80 said:
Im not convinced by all this, id be very surprised if Nvidia launch the ti alongside the vanilla, I smell photoshop
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That depends on how long Nvidia wants this to be on the market for. It seems likely that Turing is a TSMC 12nm architecture, if they release the Ti 8-months to a year later they would be arriving at 7nm pretty late.
 
stealth80 said:
Im not convinced by all this, id be very surprised if Nvidia launch the ti alongside the vanilla, I smell photoshop
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The only cards "so far" confirmed to be 16GB or higher are the Quadro series

The 2080 / 2080ti box art could absolutely be photoshopped...but I doubt it. Again why would NVIDIA (aside from being a greedy corp lol) bother with 16GB GPUs when we are barely even using 8GB GPUs to their fullest potential (vram capping).

It doesn't make sense in the slightest bit. I'm not saying I have any fact behind the GB range these cards will use or have at launch as I don't know anything about that. But it likely that they will use a very similar max vram as the 1000 series cards.
 
reason for 11gb and not 16 is easy.

There is not a single game using more than 10gb not even in 4K. So there is no point in selling a card with 16gb of memory that will not be used. Moreover, produce a 16gb card is more expensive than 11Gb. Price is also very important.
 
Piskeante said:
reason for 11gb and not 16 is easy.

There is not a single game using more than 10gb not even in 4K. So there is no point in selling a card with 16gb of memory that will not be used. Moreover, produce a 16gb card is more expensive than 11Gb. Price is also very important.
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It's mostly because the big chip seems to use a 384-bit memory bus. Divide that by 32 and you get 12 chips. Use 8Gb (1GB) chips and you get yourself 12GB of VRAM.

If Nvidia did a Titan/XX80 Ti segmentation like last time, they cut off one of the 32-bit memory channels and are left with 11 chips, which at 1GB per chip equals 11GB.
 
WYP said:
That depends on how long Nvidia wants this to be on the market for. It seems likely that Turing is a TSMC 12nm architecture, if they release the Ti 8-months to a year later they would be arriving at 7nm pretty late.
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If they indeed release the regular and Ti almost simultaneously, and then a second Ti down the road it'll get messy - like Intel messy. What's the point, of having one Ti now already, I ask?
 
TheF34RChannel said:
If they indeed release the regular and Ti almost simultaneously, and then a second Ti down the road it'll get messy - like Intel messy. What's the point, of having one Ti now already, I ask?
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I'm not saying that there will be two Ti-grade GPUs, just that releasing both the 2080 and 2080 Ti at the same time is a smart move if they want to replace Turing reasonably quickly.

Nvidia doesn't want to stay on 12nm for too long, not with 7nm incoming. They have also pretty much announced their Ti with their Quadro RTX 8000/6000, as making a larger GPU die than that is pretty extreme.
 
WYP said:
I'm not saying that there will be two Ti-grade GPUs, just that releasing both the 2080 and 2080 Ti at the same time is a smart move if they want to replace Turing reasonably quickly.

Nvidia doesn't want to stay on 12nm for too long, not with 7nm incoming. They have also pretty much announced their Ti with their Quadro RTX 8000/6000, as making a larger GPU die than that is pretty extreme.
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Ah got you! (was having one eye on the forum and the other on the Forza Horizon 3 auction house he he).

So Turing may be a short lived series - at least on 12nm - you speculate?
 
TheF34RChannel said:
Ah got you! (was having one eye on the forum and the other on the Forza Horizon 3 auction house he he).

So Turing may be a short lived series - at least on 12nm - you speculate?
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Well, definitely shorter-lived than Pascal. Moving to 7nm would be extremely appealing for Nvidia. Get those die sizes and power consumption levels down.

Delaying that too long gives AMD an advantage, though TBH AMD needs every advantage that they can get at this point.

While Nvidia has not confirmed that Turing is 12nm, it seems too early for it to be anything else. AMD's 7nm parts are Q1 2019 at the earliest.
 
WYP said:
Well, definitely shorter-lived than Pascal. Moving to 7nm would be extremely appealing for Nvidia. Get those die sizes and power consumption levels down.

Delaying that too long gives AMD an advantage, though TBH AMD needs every advantage that they can get at this point.

While Nvidia has not confirmed that Turing is 12nm, it seems too early for it to be anything else. AMD's 7nm parts are Q1 2019 at the earliest.
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Yeah Turing must be 12nm. Maybe they'll make a second generation 7nm or move to Ampere or whatever with the node. I'm feeling wise for playing the waiting game for now (remember, I wanted the Ti but not some short-lived, halve baked version of whatever comes down the road).
 
TheF34RChannel said:
Yeah Turing must be 12nm. Maybe they'll make a second generation 7nm or move to Ampere or whatever with the node. I'm feeling wise for playing the waiting game for now (remember, I wanted the Ti but not some short-lived, halve baked version of whatever comes down the road).
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My estimate is that it will be Nvidia's architecture for the next year. One year isn't exactly out of the ordinary for new product launches.

It's strange how Nvidia has changed that, as the 600 and 700 series were basically the same thing, the 900 series was basically two generation in one with the, now normal, X80 Ti release mid-generation and then the super overlived GTX 10 series with the 1080 Ti release almost a year after the 1080.

Did a few calcs on the die size and transistor counts that NV gave with Turing, it is definitely TSMC 12nm or a similarly sized node.
 
WYP said:
My estimate is that it will be Nvidia's architecture for the next year. One year isn't exactly out of the ordinary for new product launches.

It's strange how Nvidia has changed that, as the 600 and 700 series were basically the same thing, the 900 series was basically two generation in one with the, now normal, X80 Ti release mid-generation and then the super overlived GTX 10 series with the 1080 Ti release almost a year after the 1080.

Did a few calcs on the die size and transistor counts that NV gave with Turing, it is definitely TSMC 12nm or a similarly sized node.
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Hmm this puts me in a predicament, wanting the Ti but what Ti? Will there be something else for Turing later on that sits between the first Ti and a titan or whatever?

It's been messy/chaotic in recent years for sure!
 
TheF34RChannel said:
Hmm this puts me in a predicament, wanting the Ti but what Ti? Will there be something else for Turing later on that sits between the first Ti and a titan or whatever?

It's been messy/chaotic in recent years for sure!
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rumour has it the ti is launching first or amongst the first cards.
 
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