Watch Dogs: Legion's PC build struggles to achieve 1080p 60FPS on an RTX 2080 Ti

This will just make people upgrade to the new RTX 3000 series or RDNA2 if it's good enough. Quite a lot of money just to games if you ask me.
 
Another fun-free game from Ubisoft?

I never understood Watch Dogs games. I understand, that this is some new genere, but why would anyone play this, when there is a ton of much better games? Who want's to hack phones and wear pig head?

I just can't get it.



Raytracing in open world game? Raytracing is ment for indoor games and not open world :-) Probably just a showcase, that super exepensive RTX card is not enough for this game.
 
I never understood Watch Dogs games. I understand, that this is some new genere, but why would anyone play this, when there is a ton of much better games? Who want's to hack phones and wear pig head?

I just can't get it.



Raytracing in open world game? Raytracing is ment for indoor games and not open world :-) Probably just a showcase, that super exepensive RTX card is not enough for this game.

Have you not seen the money Epic are making from selling cosmetic costumes in Fortnite... There are far more ridiculous items then pigs heads to wear and people are going nuts over it. So who wants to wear a pigs head? pretty much hundreds of thousands of people it seems.
 
Yeah well, more money than sense is the very definition of the PC Gamer..:rolleyes:

At least as a PC enthusiast you get what you pay for. 30fps and all the bells and whistles turned on is going to be the next consoles target frame rate.

You can count me out on that BS. I prefer to play at a hundred plus frames per second. So the options menu is nice to have. Unlike a console who's system is locked to whatever bs frame rate the developer says.

And yeah if you're worried about money and your next graphics card then PC gaming isn't for you now is it.
 
This will just make people upgrade to the new RTX 3000 series or RDNA2 if it's good enough. Quite a lot of money just to games if you ask me.

Actually, this is the way it is supposed to be. There weren't any significant improvements in graphics because of Win7 and console lacking DX12 support and 7-year-old crap console hardware. Developers were just recycling engines with minor improvements and 1080Ti was all the GPU you will ever need.

Now when we finally have proper DX12 support and RT game engines will push the limits of hardware year after year.

Sad thing is that because of AMD's lack of success to challenge Nvidia GPU prices have gone berserk.

The inability of 2-year-old hardware to run upcoming games is amazing, as long as they are properly optimized and not some cheep console ports.
 
DLSS 2.0 will surely help if you have an Nvidia card. I wonder if AMD will have something similar. If not, I don't see them succeeding to make a dent in Nvidia's sales unless their GPU's are ridiculously cheaper by comparison. At this point I'd be insane not to go with Nvidia due to DLSS 2.0 alone, considering how much more performance you can get with it. And you even get sharper image in some cases.
 
Actually, this is the way it is supposed to be. There weren't any significant improvements in graphics because of Win7 and console lacking DX12 support and 7-year-old crap console hardware. Developers were just recycling engines with minor improvements and 1080Ti was all the GPU you will ever need.

Now when we finally have proper DX12 support and RT game engines will push the limits of hardware year after year.

Sad thing is that because of AMD's lack of success to challenge Nvidia GPU prices have gone berserk.

The inability of 2-year-old hardware to run upcoming games is amazing, as long as they are properly optimized and not some cheep console ports.

I didn't say it wasn't. But if a $1200 GPU is struggling for 60fps. That's a problem. Now without RT if it can run the game at higher fps then fine. But considering their past optimization... That's not a guarantee unfortunately.

DLSS will surely help though which is a positive at least
 
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I didn't say it wasn't. But if a $1200 GPU is struggling for 60fps. That's a problem. Now without RT if it can run the game at higher fps then fine. But considering their past optimization... That's not a guarantee unfortunately.

DLSS will surely help though which is a positive at least

1200$ GPU is mainly AMD Radeon Division's problem. Somehow Intel's X299 HEDT CPUs became available for half the price when Threadripper arrived. It is just bad luck for the consumers that the game graphics revolution is happening when only one player offers high-end GPUs.
 
Yes lets blame the PC gamer vs. bad optimization. Get off your low horse!

We don't know for sure whether it's bad optimisation. These extreme settings could be just that: extreme. I remember Assassin's Creed III where turning every setting up to max completely tanked any card. But reducing one or two of those 'naughty' settings by one or two notches—which did not degrade the visuals in any meaningful way—and you suddenly had a perfectly fine game. Well, AC3 sucked as a game I thought, but that's not the point. GTA V is considered a decently well optimised game, but very few people could play it as max settings at launch. You needed two Titan cards to run at 1080p max settings. But turning down a few superfluous settings and suddenly you only needed a single GTX 970.
 
I never understood Watch Dogs games. I understand, that this is some new genere, but why would anyone play this, when there is a ton of much better games? Who want's to hack phones and wear pig head?

I just can't get it.



Raytracing in open world game? Raytracing is ment for indoor games and not open world :-) Probably just a showcase, that super exepensive RTX card is not enough for this game.
I got the first one bundled with a 660 Ti, I quite enjoyed it. It was pretty cheesy and cliche but good fun and I'm quite into all kinds of electro so the soundtrack worked wonders for me.


Also, what comes to settings, that's like calling original Crysis horribly optimised. But in fact they just wanted it to look good with future machines as well. If it looks like arse with settings which mid range hardware can reliably push 60 frames at, then there's a reason to complain.
 
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