Nvidia RTX SUPER series pricing leaks

Congratulations Nvidia. Last time you got a 'f@!k off' and this time you have earned a 'super f@!k off'
 
This.

Nvidia lost me as a customer when they went from a £699 1080 Ti to a £1199 2080 Ti which was only 27% faster on average.

Agreed.
I think turing gets a lot of hate, but it's actually decent architecture. 30ish% on the same process node. impressive.

What does deserve hate is the pricing!
 
To be fair, they achieved those ~30% gains by making the dies ~50% larger, so it was far from a free gain. Ofc that increased die size also went heavily to non-shader units this time around, the features cost NVidia money to implement so in a way it makes sense they cost consumers too, but if most consumers can't use the features yet then they're obviously not going to assign as much value to them as they cost in materials, so it's still a bad business move for NVidia as most consumers probably would have preferred "low fat Turing" upto higher pricing tiers for better value on existing titles, but conversely I'd say it's probably a relatively good one for the industry as developers will have had earlier motivation to commit resources to DXR as a result of the much wider spread of hardware accelerated DXR cards on the market and have had a much wider audience to test & receive feedback from especially in lower resource situations.

Essentially I think the annoyance was primarily with the fact some consumers felt they had little viable alternative at Turings launch, so they didn't really have a choice in whether they assigned value to the genuinely fairly expensive features, but of course everyone has the choice of just, not upgrading(If they didn't fancy what AMD had), which I'm sure NVidia weighed up when they took the risk of full fat Turing for mainstream consumer cards.
 
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As things move forward Turing's performance gap with Pascal will get wider.

Many games on modern engines make great use of Turing's performance enhancing features, with Forza Horizon 4 and RAGE 2 being great examples of this. In RAGE 2 the RTX 2060 can easily best a GTX 1080 by a significant margin.

That said, there are game engines where Turing doesn't have much impact, which is why the architecture gets a bad name. It's forward-looking nature does it no favours in older games.
 
Rage 2 is bland from what I read and I can play Forza on my xb1x.

Wherever am I getting £1200 worth?

I've had more fun playing fallout 3 enhanced over the past few days than when, well, I last played fallout 3. Sure the graphics are a bit crap but holy balls I forgot what a good fallout game feels like. I ran two batteries flat yesterday playing it, a first for me.
 
This.

Nvidia lost me as a customer when they went from a £699 1080 Ti to a £1199 2080 Ti which was only 27% faster on average.

This, and not just Turing. 770 vs 970, huge price increase, miss sold then to a 1070, another big price increase.

I have been using exclusively Nvidia cards since my Geforce 2. I have bought a total of 22 Nvidia cards in the life time that I have been building and using gaming PC's but the way they have treated their customers has been so awful in the last few years that I will only buy another if I have to.

I fully understand that things are not getting any cheaper but the fact they expect their customers to absorb every single cost and keep their margins high shows how little they care for their customers.

When I work on someones PC, i'll tidy up the cables with cable ties, I'll clean every area I come across, ill make sure my customer has virus protection on their device and their drivers are all up to date. I could charge for these things, an extra 10p per cable tie, a cleaning fee and a service fee for the antivirus installs and driver updates but I don't. These are things that I take the cost for because I want my clients to know they are getting what they have paid for. This is not the case for Nvidia, they have put all costs on their customers and are still bathing in the cash. Nvidia need to realise that their are costs with running a business and developing products and if they are high they need to lower their margins, gain customer confidence and improve their reputation. Right now they are moving towards the "designer" brand reputation and will be selling us a fans at an additional £1000 or PCI brackets as additional costs.
 
I've honestly stopped paying attention to hardware in general. I remember a time when I literally knew every Intel CPU spec from their ark page. EVER CPU in the i series, from the Sandy to Haswell.

I don't remember much anymore.

I'm more interested in software now.
 
I've honestly stopped paying attention to hardware in general. I remember a time when I literally knew every Intel CPU spec from their ark page. EVER CPU in the i series, from the Sandy to Haswell.

I don't remember much anymore.

I'm more interested in software now.

A kindred spirit! I'm exactly the same and have been disinterested for a while now.
 
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