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Old 01-09-17, 08:42 PM
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I am oldskool.

Tired of seeing Threadripper builds? (haha)
Tired of every one boasting of uber hardware?
So bored you could just sit in the corner and fap?

Well you've come to the wrong place, sorry.

Oh yeah, what am I up to. Well, a few days ago I procured a 2005 Alienware case. This one to be exact.



It was covered in rubs, gouges, scratches and smelled like BO. Seriously, the bloke who delivered it freaking STUNK. The entire case just stunk of armpits. After heaving for a while and giving it a good clean down with some window cleaner (with vinegar) I took a look over it. Three cracks, none visible thankfully. I will get to that later.

So this is what it should look like.



Only it didn't because it looked like ass and stunk like armpit.

I began working on it yesterday and spent most of the day colour sanding, cutting, buffing and polishing. Here are the fruits of some of my labour.

Side panel and top. Look at the one in the background (not done at that time) for comparison.



This took about an hour. My hands are still numb from two days of it.



Wet sand 3000, T-cut metallic and then Plastx for that super shine. I will be using some kind of wax/polish on it next. You can literally see your face in it.

OK, so before I even started to think of what hardware to put in this thing I bought this.



Quickly followed by these.





So that I can inject the cracks and stop them spreading. Right now they are very small fatigue cracks (from where some dildo tried to pull the side panel off without removing the screws

The case needs minor repairs but will be solid once I am done. OK, so literally just as I was sanding the last panel for cutting etc a pair of bike wheels I have had on Ebay for over three months finally sold at my asking price. I was happy.

I started digging and thinking, man, it's amazing how quickly you forget technology once you move on. In the end I settled for an Asus A7V8X/LAN/GOLD.







It has RAM and a CPU but I don't know what either are yet. Not a problem, both are literally tuppence. So obviously I needed a graphics card. The last AGP card I had was a 9200 Pro. Then I moved onto PCIE. However, I need to be very careful because the games I am intending to run spaz out on more modern hardware. These games include, but are not limited to.

Sega PC Daytona USA
Sega PC Sega Rally Championship
Midtown Madness 1&2
Motocross Madness 1&2
Half Life, HL OP, BS
Gunman Chronicles

And so on. I have all of my PC games going back to 1996. Literally hundreds.

So I had a think and remembered that the last time I played those games was on my 3DLabs Oxygen 32mb X4 AGP. So I started the hunt, and found this, a Wildcat 64mb VP560.



It is brand Harry Spankers and cost me £15. It seems 3Dlabs have had a clearout, and one company in particular on Ebay have hundreds of them. This is good, because it has brought the price down to practically bugger all. I won't need to replace the caps, either. I've got the drivers too, because 3Dlabs still have them on their site.

OK, so storage. £3.99 oh yes.



DVDRom £5



Round IDE cables 99p each



And I could not resist this. £6 though !



Cooling. Why yes, it will be water cooled with a proper loop

Couple of things. I will be running Windows 2000 with DX8.1 (easily the best way to enjoy old games !) I have a 400w PSU that needs a new 80mm fan. I will most likely braid that..

I checked the GPU before I bought it. Apparently it can run 1080p lol. Hilarious and runs digital into modern panels

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Old 01-09-17, 08:56 PM
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you have been busy but i like seeing what people are doing , old or new components its all good
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Old 01-09-17, 10:37 PM
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More stuff like this, old hardware is great to see.
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Old 01-09-17, 11:43 PM
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Well done dude nice to see something different
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Old 02-09-17, 12:22 AM
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IN! Me likey custom loops! Even though I am just about completely SICK of rebuilding my own!!
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Old 02-09-17, 10:08 AM
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A Refreshing blast from the past, Very interesting..Just a thought but maybe a thread for peeps on a tight budget who want to build Budget system using either latest technology or a combination of latest/Used. "Budget Build Corner" or something.
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Old 02-09-17, 12:10 PM
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Some of it is budget. There will be braiding and water cooling though. I found a beautiful old block last night. Hoping I can make it fit

I started out today's fun by hunting down some versions of Direct X for Windows 2000. Because I worked in a computer shop I was lucky enough to be given Windows 2000 by a Microsoft rep a couple of months before it launched. I still have it, which is a good thing because it was still the best version of Windows IMO. XP was just 2000 with a posh front end. Any way, it was when they introduced Direct X for Windows 2000 that every one pretty much threw a party, because you didn't have to be at the mercy of a crappy OS that BSOD every ten minutes (Windows Multiple Errors).

First version is Direct X 7. It goes up to 9.0c but my GPU maxes out at 8.1. Not that I care, most of what I am aiming to run is DX5 lol.

I have deliberately ordered a GPU with a slower core and RAMDAC too. If you over cook it most of the games do not work very well, if at all. Daytona USA for example. You get to the straight and it goes at about 300 FPS. Get to the turns it drops. So it's completely unplayable. I am hoping the CPU is not too fast, if it is I will see about under clocking it.

We went from the P166MMX to the Tbird in about four years. Tbird are all 1ghz or more, IIRC. So I am kinda hoping it's a slower Duron. Maybe 800mhz max, but we will see. I can always swap it out if I have to

I've spoken to a chum on another forum (he's big into his old stuff also) and he reckons this particular Asus board is bomb proof. Said he wouldn't even bother testing the caps let alone replacing them because they did not suffer the ailments of the Nforce 2 boards.

Said the board should talk too lol. "No graphics card detected" "RAM fault" and so on.

I also would not recommend building something like this as a budget rig. It was cheap, don't get me wrong, but I could have bought a Core 2 Duo cheaper.

I am aiming to target a specific bunch of my game collection that suffer from stupid fast hardware so that I can play them properly I might even have to drop it to something like a Pentium 2 or Pentium 3 tbh.
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Old 02-09-17, 12:58 PM
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Ah that browny-gold coloured board brings back memories...not good ones mind. Used to build all our own business PCs to order for sale. You didn't know the spec in advance so you ended up having to bang out ten of them over a weekend and then work out why at least one of them was giving you grief. I quite like the peaceful life now where you can just buy them off-the-shelf (for customers - I water-cool my own) and they generally don't go wrong. Happy days!

I got rid of a lot of the old-school stuff I had obsessively stored but I'll have a dig through and drop you an email with a list of any stuff that might be of help. I think I may have a CPU block of that era. Fairly sure I've got an AMD heatsink with a 60mm focused flow Delta on it....if you want old school air-raid alarm rather than water cooled peace and quiet! ;-)
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Old 02-09-17, 01:09 PM
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haha no quiet will do mate I had a look at the PSU last night. It's a Zoostrom (so Ebuyer) 300w. The rear fan is dead, so I got this for £1.59 from China



Going back to the block... This is it here. Ignore that it's pretty much black, I have buffing compound. Instead focus on the four holes that pass straight through...



So then I did some looking online and found this.



And guess what? we have a match. It will bolt straight to the board. Couple of problems.

1. The G 1/4 holes have a 45 deg slope before they are flat. This was for old barbs. What they would do is wrap something around them that I believe to be plumber's tape, then screw them in. So O-rings are out.

2. This means that unless the acrylic is reversible you will be making me a new acrylic top.

Cool huh?
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Yep, its PTFE tape to seal (with any luck) the threads. Exactly the same stuff plumbers use. Its white too...just to wreck your colour scheme.

You can't even flip the top panel like you did on the last one. I could probably make one using the old as a pattern. Conveniently have G1/4 tap from when i couldnt resist playing with things I probably already knew wouldn't work!
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