Nvidia CEO Calls Radeon VII "Underwhelming" and says "The Performance is Lousy"

Nvidia CEO Calls Radeon VII "Underwhelming" and says "The Performance is Lousy"

Jensen says that the RTX 2080 will "crush it" with DLSS.



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Basically: https://youtu.be/C6BYzLIqKB8

Oh I do enjoy these gloves off back and forth blows between Teams Red & Green, we need this more often.

^ The fact that that Jensen is Lisa's uncle wakes it way funnier.

Ouch

So, reading this, I can interpret it as one of two things :

1) NVidia are getting kind of scared. Not because they are not ahead, but because their lead may be shrinking (market-wise) and with all the lawsuits and stuff, they are bleeding money and AMD might have a chance to really catch up. They may pay for their arrogance in the last few years.

2) NVidia know they're so far ahead of the competition that they feel comfortable ridiculing them during their time on the spotlight. No matter how wrong other things go, their technology is great and there's no chance of AMD catching up.

I for one think the truth is somewhere in the middle. Intel was seen as farther ahead of AMD on the CPU front than NVidia is on the GPU front, and AMD managed to somehow pull the carpet under Intel's feet. And now they're feeling the pressure while AMD is raking in that sweet sweet money Ryzen brings. I'm not holding my breath, but I wouldn't be too surprised if a similar thing happened with NVidia down the line. For now, Radeon VII is a bit underwhelming, but only when viewed from an improvement over Vega standpoint (or a power consumtion standpoint, I will assume). The performance, if AMD's testing is to be believed, is nice and I will probably be buying one, just because I want that level of performance, don't care about power draw and don't want to buy NVidia out of principle.

WYP said:

Jensen says that the RTX 2080 will "crush it" with DLSS.

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Which is supported by how many games?


Nvidia's been dealing in gimmicks for well over a decade now. DLSS is no different. Just a fancy upscaling technique. And Nvidia likes to commit an occasional fraud every once in a while, let's not forget about that. That's why I really can't stand them as a company and why I'm constantly rooting for AMD to come up with something at least decent enough that I don't have to give my money to Nvidia.

lol
the man in the ivory tower (that's on fire btw Jensen) looking down at the peasants and mocking them.
I cannot wait to see how this pans out over the next few years.

ImprovizoR said:

Which is supported by how many games?


Nvidia's been dealing in gimmicks for well over a decade now. And they commit an occasional fraud every once in a while. That's why I really can't stand them as a company and why I'm constantly rooting for AMD to come up with something at least decent enough that I don't have to give my money to Nvidia.

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One, Final Fantasy XV, but only at 4K.

I wouldn't say the performance is lousy, but I would say it's underwhelming. It's basically a 1080Ti (roughly same performance, same price, same TDP) but with superior 'compute' performance...

...two years later...with no DLSS or RT.

Performance is good, price is terrible. I won't be buying one of these for the same reason I wouldn't buy an RTX card.

Jensen said:

if we turn on ray tracing we’ll crush it

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Yep, crush your own fps. If "we" turn on ray tracing and dlss? I was under the impression that both of these things were down to game developers to integrate/enable, and thus far the only way you've improved ray tracing performance is disabling half of it (Battlefield V).

If it's true that AMD is able to match the 2080 then that's fantastic progress for the red team, although I fear they need to do so at a lower price due to the nvidiot mindshare.
The concerning thing would be the suggestions I've seen that the Vega VII is just a failed/repurposed Instinct MI50

Tell tale signs of a bad sport that was spoiled as a child and used to getting his own way.

Nvidia stock is down, Very slowly losing market share, Freesync does work, And now a 2080 competitor at $100 less albeit no ray tracing or DLSS but then again those are 2 features that are in only 2 games so not really a selling point.

Next he's going to throw his toys out of his baby stroller and start screaming.

Or maybe he's just confident that DLSS will provide a big performance increase.

trawetSluaP said:

Or maybe he's just confident that DLSS will provide a big performance increase.

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DLSS will give a big performance boost, but it needs to be adopted by developers first.

Hitman 2 and Just Cause 4 were advertised as having support for it at the RTX launch and neither game has so far received the feature. Both of these games released after the Nvidia RTX series BTW.

WYP said:

DLSS will give a big performance boost, but it needs to be adopted by developers first.

Hitman 2 and Just Cause 4 were advertised as having support for it at the RTX launch and neither game has so far received the feature. Both of these games released after the Nvidia RTX series BTW.

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Real reason he's mad is because Dr Su wore leather yesterday better than he ever did ^_^

NickOmega said:

Yep, crush your own fps. If "we" turn on ray tracing and dlss? I was under the impression that both of these things were down to game developers to integrate/enable, and thus far the only way you've improved ray tracing performance is disabling half of it (Battlefield V).

If it's true that AMD is able to match the 2080 then that's fantastic progress for the red team, although I fear they need to do so at a lower price due to the nvidiot mindshare.
The concerning thing would be the suggestions I've seen that the Vega VII is just a failed/repurposed Instinct MI50

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One thing I will say is that his mouth is writing cheques he can't cash. What I mean is that basically he is at the mercy of game devs and they are all coding for.... AMD based consoles.

So he can say WTF he likes but if he doesn't get support he will wind up with egg on his face.

And let's face it, most of his company's previous efforts have fallen flat. SLi, 3DVision etc. All lacked support. So if there are hardly any RTX games then his cards will be an epic waste of money.

Dicehunter said:

Real reason he's mad is because Dr Su wore leather yesterday better than he ever did ^_^

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Hahaha, yes. This explains everything!

AlienALX said:

One thing I will say is that his mouth is writing cheques he can't cash. What I mean is that basically he is at the mercy of game devs and they are all coding for.... AMD based consoles.

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Isn't RTX vendor agnostic though? While RTX is Nvidia's way of running it. And AMD reportedly building their own solution.

AlienALX said:

One thing I will say is that his mouth is writing cheques he can't cash. What I mean is that basically he is at the mercy of game devs and they are all coding for.... AMD based consoles.

So he can say WTF he likes but if he doesn't get support he will wind up with egg on his face.

And let's face it, most of his company's previous efforts have fallen flat. SLi, 3DVision etc. All lacked support. So if there are hardly any RTX games then his cards will be an epic waste of money.

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Spot on but people like him who've got their head so far up their own jacksie that they need to perform a colonoscopy to brush their teeth can't see that far ahead.

looz said:

Isn't RTX vendor agnostic though? While RTX is Nvidia's way of running it. And AMD reportedly building their own solution.

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It needs tons of coding after the port, because remember the console comes first. Always and forever.

With AMDs "next gen" arch and Intel coming into the scene next year he is going to be facing tough times ahead.