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Old 16-09-20, 04:13 PM
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I think comparing a 3080 to a 2080ti while being a comparison the real comparison is to a 2080, really depends on what card your running like i said the other day if your on a 2080+ no real need to switch.

AMD won't be cheaper but they should be similar performance at same price points maybe with more ram since they are using gddr6.

I think the 3080 is a decent card at a good price if it holds, but if your on a 2080ti even going to a 3090 isn't really going to give you the bump your looking for if you compare tflops alone it's only 6tflops more than the 3080, huge price difference.

I honestly feel 2080ti owners should wait another generation or 2 like most people would.

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Old 16-09-20, 04:44 PM
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You need to remember that a large factor in why the 3080 is "so fast" is the G6x. Take that away? yeah we will see with the 3070.

TBH if AMD even have a competitor to the 3070 they are laughing, as that is the card that will light up sales.

The higher you go the more niche it becomes. 1% will own a 3090.
Its still faster...

Its like all the complaints about mercedes in F1.. they have the better Battery management thats why they won. Well, yeah but end of the day they are winning, which is what matters.
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Old 16-09-20, 05:03 PM
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Seems like a very good 4k card. I don't see it being a particularly important upgrade over a 2080 unless you're already at 4k, in which case you might need the extra performance, or unless you want the additional RT capabilities at 1440p. Otherwise it doesn't seem like an essential upgrade. GTX 1080 owners will see a massive leap in performance, but it is a touch wasted at 1440p, which GTX 1080 owners are likely gaming at. Still a solid upgrade though.

I think this card makes the most sense for people moving to 4k gaming from a 1080p or 1440p setup with a card like a GTX 980, 1070 or Vega 64. That would be an upgrade and new experience very much worth the money.

2080Ti don't seem to need to jump ship until the 3090 is released. If you were daft/had enough disposable income to pay £1200 for that monstrosity, you could probably do the same again with the 3090.
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Old 16-09-20, 05:39 PM
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the 2070 I was running was awesome at 1440p. More than enough.

I won't be buying a 3090. Even though I could (and it would be on my ex landlady which makes it all the funnier) I won't bother. Gonna sort out my stereo system next.
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Old 16-09-20, 05:48 PM
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youtuber will be hyping this to death.
clicks clicks clicks...


it´s a nice generational update, something i EXPECT.
but i guess all this stupid hyping is because the 20 series was such a letdown.


also ....i don´t want to sit next to an even bigger space heater.
the power draw is a real problem.
i have 3 beefy systems in my mancave (a few more in a "server"room) and a 3 monitor setup and when all is running.... it´s already freaking warm.
if i would replace my current three GPU´s with three RTX 3080 i would add another 300-350 watt heat output....

but reading the conclusion here made me think if a 14 years old wrote it.
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Old 16-09-20, 06:31 PM
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Your review contains erroneous infomation. Pertaining to -

There are a couple of things to be aware of with our overclocking efforts on the RTX 3080 FE. Firstly, like so many of our reviews, we're running on pre-release drivers. This brings it's own issues in certain games, but the biggest effect for this particular bit of the review is that the MSI Afterburner overclocking tool doesn't allow voltage adjustment and without the Nvidia OC Scanner tool (it wasnt ready when we were testing) we ended up being cautious, although as you'll see from our results it doesn't stop the RTX 3080 FE stomping the competition regardless.

Sorry that isn't true. The reason it overclocks like crap is because the Vbios is limiting any extra power to the GPU (see also GN). Meaning if they go back on what they finally did with the 2080Ti? that's your lot, mate. Expect 6% like GN got.
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Old 16-09-20, 07:28 PM
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It's pants as far as I am concerned.

After watching a few reviews I found the important one. You know? the one running an AMD CPU like 80% of his viewers asked him to do. I then found the only game in the 14 he tested that I actually have and play, and.

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Going AMD doesn't seem to be representative of the card's capability. Sure, difference in 4K isn't large in most cases, but 3900X is left behind consistently, despite PCI-E 4.0.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/n...-intel-10900k/
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Old 16-09-20, 07:36 PM
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Going AMD doesn't seem to be representative of the card's capability. Sure, difference in 4K isn't large in most cases, but 3900X is left behind consistently, despite PCI-E 4.0.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/n...-intel-10900k/
Aye it seems 1440p is the new 1080p.

Still, AMD have their chance soon
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Old 16-09-20, 07:40 PM
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Love absolutely everything except the power draw.


I game in a smallish room - and already (1080ti) it gets hot pretty fast. Guess most people have more space and don't care. But 350 watts (+100 if OC'ing) *is* a lot on top of everything else.


Expect a lot of people with mid-range PSU's to get in trouble. And that many will run close to the limit of the PSU - meaning worse utilization and even more heat.


The flipside though - i suppose - is that this card will not be pushed 100% in most situations, and therefor average powerdraw will be far less. I sure hope so.
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Old 16-09-20, 07:50 PM
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This card really is not all that impressive over a 2080 or even 2080ti(even in general imo).

3080 : 8704 cores, 19Gbps memory, 760GB/s

2080 : 2944 cores, 14Gbps memory, 448GB/s

In % : ~2.97x cores, ~36% faster mem, ~59% bandwidth


So with the core advantage alone, you could expect a 3x performance increase(in theory).

Not even close to that in benchmarks. Take into account ALL the other advantages? It's still only roughly depending on the game, 40-70% faster.

So to me this is not impressive. You are tripling your core counts, making the architecture more efficient/faster, more memory and faster memory, while raising the power limit up from 250 watts to 320 watts and not even getting all that much faster.

Essentially all it comes down to is in the best case scenario from what I have seen, for every 1 Watt increase over a 2080, you get 1% more performance on average.


Not impressed at all against Turing. This seems more like a larger Turing rather than a newer architecture in terms of performance. I do expect better results with smaller Ampere dies however.


Now against Pascal and specifically a 1080? Yeah this card is impressive. Anywhere from 2-3x faster. However considering the card is over 4 years old and its power limit is 1/3 lower than a 3080, it's really expected increases.


It's a fast card, but man the hype did not justify this at all. I blame Digital Foundry's early performance video only showing percentages.


Only saving grace of this card is it's price. FE 1080 and a FE 3080 launch at $700. Which makes it quite a value after 4 years.
Against a 2080/Super its also the same but far less value in an upgrade.


Also Looking at a few reviews now, seems to me most reviewers are only testing against Non Super cards. Find that very interesting.
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