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Old 04-10-19, 11:28 PM
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Nvidia's Ampere GPUs are reportedly arriving in 1H 2020

Nvidia's finally moving to 7nm.



Read more about Nvidia's Ampere series of GPUs reportedly arriving in 1H 2020.

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Old 05-10-19, 01:05 AM
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Hopefully the reduced power consumption of Nvidias 7nm GPUs means we can finally start getting normal sized cards instead of bigger..
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Old 05-10-19, 08:46 AM
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And where the hell are they going to get enough 7nm fabrication capacity to launch a new GPU series?
End of q2 maybe...
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Old 05-10-19, 10:07 AM
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Hopefully the reduced power consumption of Nvidias 7nm GPUs means we can finally start getting normal sized cards instead of bigger..
Doubt it man. Nvidia's target market don't care for card size or anything like that. All they want is "moar power than AMD and GimpWorks RayTracing" over anything else
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Old 05-10-19, 10:29 AM
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Doubt it man. Nvidia's target market don't care for card size or anything like that. All they want is "moar power than AMD and GimpWorks RayTracing" over anything else
Plus 7nm has a larger physical shrink than they have power reductions, so the surface area(An x^2 value ofc) shrinks faster than the heat output, so these products will likely be harder to cool than easier. Hence why Navi's TDP is low by past gen AMD standards but needs coolers you'd past associate with high TDP cards.
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And where the hell are they going to get enough 7nm fabrication capacity to launch a new GPU series?
End of q2 maybe...
Maybe they've been stock pilling it. Maybe that's why there is a shortage of 7nm?
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And where the hell are they going to get enough 7nm fabrication capacity to launch a new GPU series?
End of q2 maybe...
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Maybe they've been stock pilling it. Maybe that's why there is a shortage of 7nm?
They confirmed a while ago this would be Samsung 7nm which hasn't had any reported capacity issues yet or many other customers having only gone into full production a matter of months ago, only product released on it so far I think is their own Exynos 9825 mobile SoC I think in some regions for the Note10, so NVidia probably has very high priority on the list of customers if not most of the capacity for a period, but still yeah it'll likely be staggered launches stretching out till the end of q2 because it still takes a while to stockpile enough chips and boards and to get them all assembled and shipped in high quantities for a highly anticipated launch.
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Old 05-10-19, 03:16 PM
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Ampere was coming after Volta.

Turing only happened because AMD are crap. Nvidia have had all of the time in the world to get this ready. I guess they waited as long as it took to clear out all of the suckers* before they moved on.

*Turing buyers. I guess sales are slowing now. When you're this far ahead I guess you can do whatever you want.
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Old 05-10-19, 03:39 PM
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I think it's probably true we wouldn't have got a wide consumer release of Turing if AMD were more competitive, but work on Turing began in 2014 and none of NVidia's official roadmaps before Turing went beyond Volta so it was almost certainly already coming as a HPC/high end developer/prosumer set of cards, and they must have committed to designing the smaller consumer dies at least 18 months before their respective launches, so it was likely spurred by the fact that Ampere was already designed with EUV in mind and all its changes in design rules from quite early in its development, and no EUV nodes are currently ready for GPU scale production, with the timescale pushed back slightly from some of the pre-2014 expectations, meaning they would have had to wait like 3-4 years between consumer releases. AMD managed to bypass this by betting quite early on EUV coming a little later than anticipated in 2014 and designing for the pre-EUV version of TSMCs 7nm and managing to grab a pretty sizeable chunk of early capacity.
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If it is Samsung making these then we could see either a delayed release schedule or some kind of shortages/price gouging. Word on the street is that several chemicals linked to chip production are on a trade ban from Japan to Korea. Might not affect Samsung as much as the media are making out but without inside knowledge from Samsung it would be very hard to guess accurately.
Lets not forget that these will not just be competing with RDNA with Intel due to hit the market next year. Though there fab issues might make it a paper launch
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