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Old 02-04-20, 10:13 AM
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Intel latest Comet Lake-H Mobile CPUs target AMD's Ryzen 4000 series lineup

Can Intel compete while remaining on 14nm?



Read more about Intel's Comet Lake-H series of mobile CPUs.

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Old 02-04-20, 10:25 AM
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Unfortunately for AMD (& Consumers), the laptop industry is entirely OEM based. And pretty much all OEMs still have Intel's claws in them.
So it will take some time of Intel's CPUs being laughably behind AMD for them to start increasing the AMD offerings.
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Old 02-04-20, 11:21 AM
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As I said before, no chance those CPUs will hold over 5GHz for anything longer than a few seconds before they overheat and throttle. But morons will buy it up like wildfire because of it
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Old 02-04-20, 12:50 PM
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AMD will have hard time squeezing into this market. Actual performance is what matters. After being ripped by the community that none of the new Ryzen chips hits their advertised max boost targets AMD tweaked their CPUs to just spike at the start of the task and then return to standard 4-ish GHz. Did anyone care that 4.6 GHz max boos was just a gimmick so that software can report max advertised clock?? No, because the performance was really good.
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Old 02-04-20, 02:30 PM
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As I said before, no chance those CPUs will hold over 5GHz for anything longer than a few seconds before they overheat and throttle. But morons will buy it up like wildfire because of it
That's exactly what happens. One core, until it hits 65c. Then it starts to throttle.



So it's literally marketing BS.
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Old 02-04-20, 10:26 PM
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Unfortunately for AMD (& Consumers), the laptop industry is entirely OEM based. And pretty much all OEMs still have Intel's claws in them.
So it will take some time of Intel's CPUs being laughably behind AMD for them to start increasing the AMD offerings.
To be clear, it's really the consumer's fault. I don't think intel is paying for OEMs to stay with them besides what they already pay for higher-end offerings. (Really there's a reason why there isn't a gaming notebook with high end GPU and mid range CPU even though a core i5 would do just fine with an RTX 2080. But I digress), actually the problem here is consumer's are allienated with Intel's marketing they think anything other than i3, i5 or i7's are Chinese rip-offs. Seriously every single person in the last year that asked me for a laptop or desktop recommendation was skeptic and annoying every time I recommended a Ryzen powered laptop, even if it had more RAM and was less expensive with me guaranteeing them it would be a better choice, even if it was the same price.
People just think there isn't anything in the computing world besides Intel and that by itself will keep OEMs from moving over to AMD
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Old 02-04-20, 10:37 PM
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To be clear, it's really the consumer's fault. I don't think intel is paying for OEMs to stay with them besides what they already pay for higher-end offerings. (Really there's a reason why there isn't a gaming notebook with high end GPU and mid range CPU even though a core i5 would do just fine with an RTX 2080. But I digress), actually the problem here is consumer's are allienated with Intel's marketing they think anything other than i3, i5 or i7's are Chinese rip-offs. Seriously every single person in the last year that asked me for a laptop or desktop recommendation was skeptic and annoying every time I recommended a Ryzen powered laptop, even if it had more RAM and was less expensive with me guaranteeing them it would be a better choice, even if it was the same price.
People just think there isn't anything in the computing world besides Intel and that by itself will keep OEMs from moving over to AMD
I don't know about that, but I've seen tonnes of AMD laptops in places like PCWorld and other PC outlets here in Northern Ireland. I've also recommended a lot of laptops recently, and nobody questioned it if I recommended AMD-based hardware.

That said, NI might not be representative of other areas, and my friends see me as an authority on hardware, so they tend to trust my recommendations.
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Well that's just anecdotal evidence. The fact is AMD is outselling Intel right now and quickly gaining market share. So that's all we can go off of. Blaming the consumer is just wrong when factually it is just not the case as seen by multiple reports of AMD market share growth.
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AMD is storming the Laptop market. Not sure where this info that Intel have all the OEMs in their hand comes from.

And considering super computers are switching to AMD, I like to think that scales downwards meaning more and more pcs, and laptops are switching too. Which we clearly see.

I think the only area Intel dominate is servers. And that is mainly because companies do not want to take the risk of an architecture change with such sensitive and vital information being stored on their servers. They do not want to chance any disruption with AMD setups. Some have braved this however.
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Old 03-04-20, 11:45 AM
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AMD is storming the Laptop market. Not sure where this info that Intel have all the OEMs in their hand comes from.

And considering super computers are switching to AMD, I like to think that scales downwards meaning more and more pcs, and laptops are switching too. Which we clearly see.

I think the only area Intel dominate is servers. And that is mainly because companies do not want to take the risk of an architecture change with such sensitive and vital information being stored on their servers. They do not want to chance any disruption with AMD setups. Some have braved this however.
The only problem that AMD has ATM is that they need to manufacture enough processors. It will take time for OEMs to move larger portions of their inventory to AMD.

TBH, I think AMD needs a smaller quad-core die for lower-end laptops. That would be amazing for OEMs and would enable some great thin and light designs for those who don't need eight cores. They would win a lot of market share that way.
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