WYP
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More cores, a higher TDP and a new socket.
Read more about Intel's desktop-grade Comet Lake-S series processors.
Read more about Intel's desktop-grade Comet Lake-S series processors.
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Intel's desktop-grade Comet Lake-S CPUs to ship with 10 cores on a new socket
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NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Well I find it funny that Intel still has better single thread performance at 14nm vs 7nm. Sure they lose multi threads but for gamers Intel is still king...
Once they get to 10nm AMD are probably screwed on both fronts tbh.
Until then it's crappy of Intel to keep releasing new sockets on the same manufacturing process
Once they get to 10nm AMD are probably screwed on both fronts tbh.
Until then it's crappy of Intel to keep releasing new sockets on the same manufacturing process
With this area between 14nm and EUV nodes each node improvement will inherently make a given clock speed harder to achieve, AMD have had to use a sea of power gating just to stick around the same ballpark to a low-power, low-clock optimised 14nm node with TSMC 7nm. It's why Intel's Ice Lake 10nm parts can't break 4.1Ghz, even in TDP's/SKUs where their old 14nm parts are boosting to 5Ghz.
Until Intel has their 7nm EUV they're in a bit of a wasteland, hence why 10nm isn't and can't(With the fab allocation now left for it) go to anything we'd really consider mass production on Intel's scale of things and will almost certainly be skipped for performance desktop. They'll probably need to use 7nm+ or ++ to get an arch as wide and large as Ice Lake(Or derivatives) to clock speeds or core counts that are even within 15% of Coffee Lake atm(Unless they are finally ready with at least one of their multi-chip-module technologies anyway), it looks like their first round of 7nm will all get tested out with GPUs.
(But even with all of this we're still only talking about AMD potentially fully catching up with the Skylake arch in single threaded performance with Zen3 in that time, potentially if Intel could clock an Ice Lake like arch to 5Ghz on 2022's 7nm+ they'd fly right past them again unless AMD has already committed to going much wider with upcoming archs)
Until Intel has their 7nm EUV they're in a bit of a wasteland, hence why 10nm isn't and can't(With the fab allocation now left for it) go to anything we'd really consider mass production on Intel's scale of things and will almost certainly be skipped for performance desktop. They'll probably need to use 7nm+ or ++ to get an arch as wide and large as Ice Lake(Or derivatives) to clock speeds or core counts that are even within 15% of Coffee Lake atm(Unless they are finally ready with at least one of their multi-chip-module technologies anyway), it looks like their first round of 7nm will all get tested out with GPUs.
(But even with all of this we're still only talking about AMD potentially fully catching up with the Skylake arch in single threaded performance with Zen3 in that time, potentially if Intel could clock an Ice Lake like arch to 5Ghz on 2022's 7nm+ they'd fly right past them again unless AMD has already committed to going much wider with upcoming archs)
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Dicehunter
Resident Newb
Intel don't seem to have the mental capability to learn, AMD are offering backwards compatibility as far back as their 1st gen Ryzen chipset for Ryzen 3000, That is a HUGE selling point and a reason, With the amazing performance, Why AMD are rapidly gaining market share.
WillSK
Active member
Amen! It's the primary reason i've now gone AMD. I'm happy to lose a few frames in the name of better business practises and longer compatibility if I invest in a nice board
