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Old 02-05-14, 01:05 PM
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Will do! Do you guys have any idea how much of a performance gain DDR4 will be over DDR3?

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Old 02-05-14, 01:06 PM
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Will do! Do you guys have any idea how much of a performance gain DDR4 will be over DDR3?
It's going to have 50% more bandwidth and use 40% less power according to Crucial
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Old 02-05-14, 01:10 PM
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But i'm sure it will start off expensive and slow so it might be that price/performance wise it's only slightly ahead of DDR3, but that's always the case, the benefit the end user see's is nearly always just incremental.

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Old 02-05-14, 01:56 PM
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Would a Z97 board still support DDR3 memory?
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Old 02-05-14, 02:09 PM
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Yeah I think so, X99 (Haswell-E) will be the first chipset to support DDR4 AFAIK. I'm pretty sure Z97 will only be DDR3, it's not possible to support both in one slot as they have different pins.

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Old 02-05-14, 02:16 PM
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to be fair I have no clue what Z and X stand for :P
I just wanna make sure if I buy some Avexir or Platinum Memory now, I can still use it when I upgrade my Mainboard/cpu. I will skip Haswell-E though.
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Old 02-05-14, 02:30 PM
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'X' is the extreme chipset with the hexacore's and quad channel memory etc. like X79 IvyBridge-Extreme which uses socket 2011 atm. 'Z' is the mainstream performance chipset which is one step ahead in terms of architecture but less bonkers, currently using socket 1150. So it all goes a little bit something like this, think of broadwell and Z97 as what Ivy and Z77 was to Sandy and P67.

P67 S1155 Sandy Bridge DDR3
X79 S2011 Sandy Bridge Extreme DDR3
Z77 S1155 Ivy Bridge DDR3
X79 S2011 Ivy Bridge Extreme DDR3
Z87 S1150 Haswell DDR3
Z97 S1150 Broadwell DDR3 (mid 2014)
X99 S2011 Haswell Extreme DDR4 (late 2014)
Z107 S1151 Skylake DDR4 (2015)

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Old 02-05-14, 02:35 PM
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Yeah Z107 i.e Skylake has been confirmed for 2015 by Intel so that will be my next upgrade, Z97 can go take a swan dive off the empire state
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Old 02-05-14, 02:41 PM
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Yeah Z107 i.e Skylake has been confirmed for 2015 by Intel so that will be my next upgrade, Z97 can go take a swan drive off the empire state
Likewise, I think i'll be staying with X79 until Broadwell-E and the surrounding kit is well established. Having said that moving from P67 to Z77 pleased me very much at the time although that may have just been because it was a higher tier of motherboard. Long and short there is still a bit of life left in DDR3 unless your thinking of moving up to the Extreme platform. Although I really don't think it's worth investing further if you've already got 1600MHz or higher.

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Old 02-05-14, 03:02 PM
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so I'll be waiting for Broadwell Extreme in a year or so? Well sounds like Dual Xeon might be the better option for Cores/$$$. Thanks for spelling it out for me JR!
before my 4770 I had a 930, such a pleasant upgrade
I am assuming that Broadwell-E will support DDR4 then, or is that still stuck on DDR3?
As much as I like the looks of the LED Ram, 400 EUR is a lot of money just for looks. I think I will stick with my current setup and focus on the GPU next. I feel like I am making a mistake by upgrading everything at once. I also really need to fix my cable management - no LEDs in the world can distract from that
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