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Old 18-04-17, 05:18 PM
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AMD needed to push Fury X. They also had to push Polaris *and* Ryzen. Is it fair to assume Vega will follow suit?

I would strongly imagine so.

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Old 18-04-17, 05:36 PM
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It should theoretically improve with each new architecture though. Maybe after Vega we'll start to see more... finished products from AMD. With that said, Vega has been working for many months now. Is it really considered rushing when everyone has seen working silicon and the market is demanding it yet it is being postponed until it's right?
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Is this VEGA? Im so out of the loop cause AMDs taking so f'ing long
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Is this VEGA? Im so out of the loop cause AMDs taking so f'ing long
No, this is a refresh of Polaris. Vega is June likely.
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Is this VEGA? Im so out of the loop cause AMDs taking so f'ing long
You even read the article?
Its stated this is Polaris. You see the word Polaris multiple times.. not Vega..
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Old 18-04-17, 06:53 PM
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It should theoretically improve with each new architecture though. Maybe after Vega we'll start to see more... finished products from AMD. With that said, Vega has been working for many months now. Is it really considered rushing when everyone has seen working silicon and the market is demanding it yet it is being postponed until it's right?
It should improve but you need to remember this is a fiercely competitive market so IMO the days of 60% overclocks are gone. Ever since the manus introduced all of these boost techs they've used them to make the cards look better.

Now sure, there is far more headroom in Nvidia cards but that's only because they're so far ahead. I'd bet that if AMD could push them they'd wring a GTX's neck to gain the lead.

Manus used to abhor overclocking, now they all depend on it. Very ironic really eh? Even funnier that Intel even started flogging insurance for it
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Now sure, there is far more headroom in Nvidia cards but that's only because they're so far ahead.
I would add that this is also due, in large part, to Nvidia simply sharpening their own known (and slightly old) technology, and not innovating in pretty much ANY way. They've been improving the same stuff in increments, as opposed to releasing anything new or innovative. Why would they, since they own the market?
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I would add that this is also due, in large part, to Nvidia simply sharpening their own known (and slightly old) technology, and not innovating in pretty much ANY way. They've been improving the same stuff in increments, as opposed to releasing anything new or innovative. Why would they, since they own the market?
Nvidia stopped making Fermi ages ago.....

Think about that sentence in every sense.

AMD need to stop making Fermi now.....
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Oh I didn't say Nvidia were the ONLY ones who do that stuff. AMD is worse for re-branding old crap than anyone; they both do it.
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Oh I didn't say Nvidia were the ONLY ones who do that stuff. AMD is worse for re-branding old crap than anyone; they both do it.
I didn't mean that.

Fermi was a huge big tank. After that they cut back the crap which allowed them to crank the clocks. AMD have been making Fermi GCN hefty cores since the 7970. They've been obsessed with the kitchen sink ever since.

Pascal clocks to over double the MHz of Fury X. And they are tiny.
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