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Old 02-01-18, 04:40 PM
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Look mate, whatever you buy will be old hat within months. It's actually worse now with AMD going at it lol. At least before you could get botty bummed by Intel but your four cores would last you a year or so. Now? haha Intel have had a core enema and it will only continue because AMD found a way to make 8/16 CPUs really cheap. A quad core with no HT doesn't cut it for high end gaming any more but a 1600 is the perfect balance of cost, performance and multi threaded performance.

The other issue is board cost. You won't get hardly anything else out of that Z370 board for double the price. Intel need to sort that out, because currently even their "cheap" CPUs like the quad core I3 need a stupid priced board. They ain't silly, they charge a socket license for every board that is why they keep getting greedy.

So yeah, IMO 1600 B350 Strix DDR4 is still a massive upgrade over what you have now. Just make sure you buy a well built 1080Ti with a very big cooler on because they are hot SOBs. The Founders cooler simply isn't adequate and you will lose 15-25% of the performance because of heat and clock throttle. The Gigabyte cards look amazing, but as we've seen on this forum they usually arrive bent because they are a bit cheaply made.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/zotac...gx-10f-zt.html

Much better off with that IMO. Unless the GB is much cheaper. Plus Zotac give you a 5 year warranty.

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Old 02-01-18, 04:46 PM
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Yeh i get you there buddy, i know it's always a case of there always will be better, just the way it works with computers, i just wanted to make sure i was spending money in the right places and sensibly, yes the 1700/1800's are nice and they are i do like the way the 1700x can overclock real nicely, but ok yeh i have the budget doesn't mean i should blow it fully, the AMD side is cheaper and will i notice the huge difference? Most likely not tbh.

That's why i wanted a decent second opinion as i was just getting pushed towards intel, which yes i have now but the 8700k is a heck of a pricey chipset for not massive benefits from what i can read up.
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Old 02-01-18, 05:44 PM
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Yeh i get you there buddy, i know it's always a case of there always will be better, just the way it works with computers, i just wanted to make sure i was spending money in the right places and sensibly, yes the 1700/1800's are nice and they are i do like the way the 1700x can overclock real nicely, but ok yeh i have the budget doesn't mean i should blow it fully, the AMD side is cheaper and will i notice the huge difference? Most likely not tbh.

That's why i wanted a decent second opinion as i was just getting pushed towards intel, which yes i have now but the 8700k is a heck of a pricey chipset for not massive benefits from what i can read up.
If you have a Ryzen CPU with an overclock and fast memory there will be a minimal performance difference in games in almost all cases. Especially if you upgrade to a 1440p monitor. A 1080Ti is crazy overkill for 1080, so I would advise a new monitor if/when you can afford it.

Give me a minute and I can make a list on PCpartpicker.
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Old 02-01-18, 05:48 PM
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If you have a Ryzen CPU with an overclock and fast memory there will be a minimal performance difference in games in almost all cases. Especially if you upgrade to a 1440p monitor. A 1080Ti is crazy overkill for 1080, so I would advise a new monitor if/when you can afford it.
Thats the way i'm looking at the moment, just debating now between which ryzen chip tbh, thinking the 1700x as it looks a solid option, my plan is whatever i get i won't be changing it for atleast 2 years or more, the last PC i built 5 years ago and haven't upgraded it since till now.
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Old 02-01-18, 05:53 PM
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Thats the way i'm looking at the moment, just debating now between which ryzen chip tbh, thinking the 1700x as it looks a solid option, my plan is whatever i get i won't be changing it for atleast 2 years or more, the last PC i built 5 years ago and haven't upgraded it since till now.
I have had the opportunity to work with most of AMD's Ryzen CPUs (helping TTL with review testing) and I can say that 1700 is the best buy as far as the 8-cores go. They all overclock similarly and the R7 1700 is the cheapest and has a stock cooler (handy as a spare cooler).

I'll get on PC parts picker and compile a list of parts.
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I have had the opportunity to work with most of AMD's Ryzen CPUs (helping TTL with review testing) and I can say that 1700 is the best buy as far as the 8-cores go. They all overclock similarly and the R7 1700 is the cheapest and has a stock cooler (handy as a spare cooler).

I'll get on PC parts picker and compile a list of parts.
Tbh the 1700x looks the dogs balls tbf, it can overclock real nice, is slightly cheaper so it benefits there and overal seems a pretty good chip.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-...mb-6ay-as.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/amd-r...cp-39x-am.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/gigab...gx-19h-gi.html

That's what i've got so far i may change the GPU tbh though,

Memory wise i'm looking at either of these two.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team-...my-076-tg.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/corsa...my-48d-cs.html

as for the rest PSU wise i've got this

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/seaso...ca-05q-ss.html

i am however going to run a different CPU cooler though, thinking this but not 100%
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/nzxt-...hs-01c-nx.html
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Old 02-01-18, 06:12 PM
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Right so i'm putting the package together, personally i'm leaning towards the crosshair XI Hero WIFI, simply because i need WIFI, where my PC is so makes it alot easier for me(i do have a WIFI card i could pop in though if i kept with the other board.)
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Old 02-01-18, 06:14 PM
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Tbh the 1700x looks the dogs balls tbf, it can overclock real nice, is slightly cheaper so it benefits there and overal seems a pretty good chip.
Can you link in the parts you are looking at right now? Then I can have a look and make recommendations from there.

Also, don't you mean Crosshair VI Hero WiFi? Remember that you need an AM4 motherboard.
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Can you link in the parts you are looking at right now? Then I can have a look and make recommendations from there.

Also, don't you mean Crosshair VI Hero WiFi? Remember that you need an AM4 motherboard.
I've just sorted the links out and yes i know bud, i do have a wifi card as i said so it's not super important it's just a nice thing to have, a decent onboard sound chip would however be a very good benefit!
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Old 02-01-18, 06:22 PM
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I've just sorted the links out and yes i know bud, i do have a wifi card as i said so it's not super important it's just a nice thing to have, a decent onboard sound chip would however be a very good benefit!
Cool stuff, post them below and I will have a look at what you have so far. I use the Hero myself and love the board, though you can get the same performance out of cheaper stuff (Though the Hero does have great BIOS support).
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