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Old 11-05-14, 12:39 AM
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I'd say cutting it off completely is probably a pretty bad idea since you would
take away the PSU's capability to control and regulate the voltage coupled to
that wire. I would not be surprised if you'd actually break something with that
(example: cutting off the + 12 V sense wire will lead to the PSU getting a
measurement of 0 V on the + 12 V line, which might lead to some very bad
voltage regulation reaction).

Lutro0's version of simply branching the wire out somewhere at the back I'm
not completely sure about. Voltage measurement will be somewhat compromised
but since you can adjust your voltages in the BIOS (usually) you could actually
compensate for that to some degree. The voltages measured by the PSU would
be slightly too high (the actual voltages at the connector would be somewhat
lower than the PSU believes them to be), so you're not going to accidentally fry
your components or anything, it's just not exactly what I'd call an optimal solution
from an electrical point of view, and if your setup is sensitive to bad voltage
regulation (say, if you're running some significant overclocks) then this might
lead to failure sooner than a proper two wire cable.

The most elegant solution I'd say is to run two separate wires for the full length of
the cable inside one sleeve and then branching out of the sleeve somewhere
close to the PSU. If that's not possible, then I'd personally run two separate wires
with separate sleeves, but if you want you could try Lutro0's version, I have not
yet heard about anything horrible happen due to that, it's just not something
I'd personally do to one of my own rigs.
Alpen always love your indept answers.

I just wanted to added for an FYI.

I have done work for many psu makers and many hardware producers.

The method in my video is actually what some of them requested for their testing, showcases, and new hardware testing machines that they use to stress test and max out testing.

I always suggest that the split be done as close to the psu in a place where it can be hidden. If I didnt make that clean in the video I will update it asap. This has produced no issues on many many cables sleeving jobs for both overclockers, the above, and regular jobs.

I have also tested this method with a multi meter with little to no changes.

I only say this to ease others minds when using this method, before I post or share anything I make sure to get the opinions of psu makers, developers and some of the top overclockers to make sure that what I am sharing is safe.

The double wire method is simply a work around to get the cleanest look on a psu, double wire can be handled the way they come but it looks much better when they are cleaned up so that only one wire is crimped into a terminal - however there is nothing wrong with putting two wires in one terminal.

Thanks again for your well thought out and thorough answers to the sleeving community alpen its much appreciated!

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Old 11-05-14, 01:17 AM
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Alpen always love your indept answers.

I just wanted to added for an FYI.

I have done work for many psu makers and many hardware producers.

The method in my video is actually what some of them requested for their testing, showcases, and new hardware testing machines that they use to stress test and max out testing.

I always suggest that the split be done as close to the psu in a place where it can be hidden. If I didnt make that clean in the video I will update it asap. This has produced no issues on many many cables sleeving jobs for both overclockers, the above, and regular jobs.

I have also tested this method with a multi meter with little to no changes.

I only say this to ease others minds when using this method, before I post or share anything I make sure to get the opinions of psu makers, developers and some of the top overclockers to make sure that what I am sharing is safe.

The double wire method is simply a work around to get the cleanest look on a psu, double wire can be handled the way they come but it looks much better when they are cleaned up so that only one wire is crimped into a terminal - however there is nothing wrong with putting two wires in one terminal.

Thanks again for your well thought out and thorough answers to the sleeving community alpen its much appreciated!
Ha, hey lutro0, great to see you here too!

Thanks a lot for that input. It's one thing when somebody does theoretical
considerations, but as I well know, that doesn't always translate to practice
as neatly as one might think, so I greatly appreciate the feedback from
somebody who has actual practical experience with this (after all, I have
done but a mere two PSUs personally, not exactly a statistcally significant
sample, and I don't have proper equipment to test my theories either).

I'll make a note of this in case I ever come across the issue again.

And thanks for the compliment, it's always nice when one's efforts are
appreciated, especially by people who have done as much as you have
for our community. I shall strive to continue my efforts to the best of
my abilities.
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Old 11-05-14, 01:21 AM
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Ha, hey lutro0, great to see you here too!

Thanks a lot for that input. It's one thing when somebody does theoretical
considerations, but as I well know, that doesn't always translate to practice
as neatly as one might think, so I greatly appreciate the feedback from
somebody who has actual practical experience with this (after all, I have
done but a mere two PSUs personally, not exactly a statistcally significant
sample, and I don't have proper equipment to test my theories either).

I'll make a note of this in case I ever come across the issue again.

And thanks for the compliment, it's always nice when one's efforts are
appreciated, especially by people who have done as much as you have
for our community. I shall strive to continue my efforts to the best of
my abilities.
not a problem, there is not many of us that help others in this field so it helps when we are all on the same page
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