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Old 21-01-19, 12:08 PM
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FE and OC'd GCard? What's the real gain? 🧐

Hi all,

This is well in advance of me actually buying one but I'm considering in purchasing a RTX 2080. (Currently running a GTX 1070).

Running @ 1440p the 1070 often struggles due to me liking everything looking pretty.

My question is, what are the real gains from having an over clocked card compared to say a founders addition? When I ask this its in consideration of thermals not really being an issue and not intending to over clock.

You can easily spend hundreds more on an OC compared to an FE so with funds limited I was interested in what the actually performance difference was.

Just to add my rig which is aging a bit I think is still adequate for current games. Specs as follows :-

Asrock Z77 extreme 4.
3770k @ 4.4ghz,
16gig 2400 ram,
Various SD hard drives.

Thanks in advance,

Lee.

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Old 21-01-19, 12:13 PM
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Do you plan on keeping the card on air?

If so then a non FE would be better as they have better cooling solutions IMO.

Regarding the OC, you're looking a 10 extra frames or so over standard boost clock but from my understanding most cards can be manually OC'd to the same level. It's then important to keep them cool to avoid downclocking.
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Old 21-01-19, 12:17 PM
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If you're not concerned about OC just buy the cheapest card which has a serviceable cooler. Specifically, avoid blower fans unless you've got an actual need for them, like no way to exhaust heat from your case or running multi-GPU. Though for the latter you should just watercool.

In regards to factory OC models, the difference is usually less than 5%. Asus ROG lineup is the worst offender nowadays with significantly higher pricing, and performance to not match that at all.

What you get for the extra cash is better VRMs (not a concern when running stock) and high end boards tend to have coil whine less often. But it's still a bit of a gamble.
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Old 21-01-19, 01:02 PM
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Yeah buy a card for what it is rather than what settings it has, while some cards also have slightly better binning often it's best to just make sure the cooling & power delivery matches how far you want to push an overclock, for a modest one using an FE or reference-PCB based card with a beefier cooler(Which I think can sometimes be cheaper than the FE models) is your best option, there's not much value incentive going beyond that. As far as I know pretty much every card has auto-OCing software you can use with it which will give a modest overclock without the headaches of manually OCing, I guess with modern Turbo you could say it already kinda does a little.
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Old 21-01-19, 04:34 PM
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Thanks for replies guys.

I was considering a blower specifically mainly because I have a View 71 case (fully glass) and have my GCard vertical.

I know people strongly go against the idea but with two 140mm intake and the FE being a blower it tends to work pretty well. Rarely go over 70°c.

I have 1 X 140mm exhaust too. Any recommendations on keeping it cooler while vertical would be much appreciated.

Thanks again.

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Old 21-01-19, 05:02 PM
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Thanks for replies guys.

I was considering a blower specifically mainly because I have a View 71 case (fully glass) and have my GCard vertical.

I know people strongly go against the idea but with two 140mm intake and the FE being a blower it tends to work pretty well. Rarely go over 70°c.

I have 1 X 140mm exhaust too. Any recommendations on keeping it cooler while vertical would be much appreciated.

Thanks again.

Lee.
I'd say 70C is pretty good for a blower. Would be difficult to lower it without watercooling I'd imagine.
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Old 21-01-19, 10:16 PM
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The FE's for the RTX2000 cards aren't blowers, but the AIB blower models are usually cheaper than the FEs I think, if you don't mind the noise then a blowers fine, they can just sound abit like hairdryers if you push them (Not a problem with closed headphones though), though if you had room for more exhaust fans near the GPU or if the CPU could have an exhaust directly above it too then fitting a non-blower should be fine, as long as your CPU isn't already quite warm anyway, as it might impact the temps on that a little depending on the exhaust setup maybe more than a little.
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Old 22-01-19, 07:43 AM
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Thanks for replies guys.

I was considering a blower specifically mainly because I have a View 71 case (fully glass) and have my GCard vertical.

I know people strongly go against the idea but with two 140mm intake and the FE being a blower it tends to work pretty well. Rarely go over 70°c.

I have 1 X 140mm exhaust too. Any recommendations on keeping it cooler while vertical would be much appreciated.

Thanks again.

Lee.
FE cards are no longer blowers in the RTX series. However the ASUS Turbo variant has an AIB Blower cooler, and seems to perform well. Sadly its quite overpriced for what it is.

And for non Watercooling setups, Blowers are the best for SLI/NVlink if that is a plan for the future
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Old 22-01-19, 08:15 AM
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Again thanks for the replies guys.

Being vertical I'll be looking for a nice looking card and and to be honest I'm not too fond of the latest FE cards. Better cooling but not easy on the eye. I'll be having a good look around it's just with open air I've heard the heat from the cases glass panel can be drawn into the card hence going for a blower style.

Here's the only pic I can find of my pc which shows my concern.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/copYaec5cAzsyGtcA

Thanks again.

Lee
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Old 22-01-19, 11:22 AM
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Given your CPU is watercooled I don't think a non-blower would cause any issues there, pretty much all the air exhausted by the GPU would be pulled out the 140mm exhaust so I don't think the air exhausting out the bottom of the GPU would be enough to heat the glass meaningfully, and as the intake air has to pass over the glass to reach the GPUs fans it'll likely keep the glass around there relatively cool(Compared to a horizontal mounted non-blower). Glass has a pretty low thermal conductivity compared to metals but a fairly high thermal capacity so it should retain most of the heat if not for highly sustained periods and release the majority through the external side of the glass panel anyway as that side has a lower ambient temperature than inside the case therefore giving a lower absolute thermal resistance (Or higher absolute thermal conductivity) on that side of the glass. Heat, like electricity, naturally takes the pass of least resistance when possible.

Edit: However, I'm not sure how reputable this site is but here's a blower RTX2080 for £560 inc. VAT apparently which seems quite cheap for a 2080 from what I've seen.

https://www.ballicom.co.uk/vcg20808b...8aAtiZEALw_wcB

It might also be worth considering an AIO GPU watercooling kit if you can fit one, I believe you can get things to fit CPU ones to GPU chips but not sure if they work with Turing yet.
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