A "next-gen" Battlefield game is coming to PC and Consoles this year

WYP · #1 22-04-21, 02:24 PM

Here's what we know so far.

Read more about EA's next-generation Battlefield game.

spolsh · #2 24-04-21, 12:08 PM

Wonder if there'll be worthwhile anti-cheat built in ? My guess, No.

AngryGoldfish · #3 24-04-21, 07:32 PM

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Wonder if there'll be worthwhile anti-cheat built in ? My guess, No.

Does such a thing even exist? For real, I don't know if I've ever found a game that can successfully keep a lobby clear of cheaters and trolls.

Dawelio · #4 24-04-21, 08:09 PM

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Does such a thing even exist? For real, I don't know if I've ever found a game that can successfully keep a lobby clear of cheaters and trolls.

Nah, it's more or less impossible. As soon as the developers have a found a way to block, new cheats are already implemented.

AngryGoldfish · #5 25-04-21, 10:59 AM

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Nah, it's more or less impossible. As soon as the developers have a found a way to block, new cheats are already implemented.

Yeah, I thought that was the case. That's why it always confuses me when people complain to the developers as if they're purposefully allowing hackers and trolls to ruin their game. The game publishers and developers don't earn more money when someone uses a wall hack or an aimbot. Rockstar in fact lose money in GTA Online because hackers generate free money for anyone in the lobby, and the only reason Rockstar have supported GTA Online for so long is because of the money they've earned through Shark Cards.

Damien c · #6 25-04-21, 12:37 PM

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Yeah, I thought that was the case. That's why it always confuses me when people complain to the developers as if they're purposefully allowing hackers and trolls to ruin their game. The game publishers and developers don't earn more money when someone uses a wall hack or an aimbot. Rockstar in fact lose money in GTA Online because hackers generate free money for anyone in the lobby, and the only reason Rockstar have supported GTA Online for so long is because of the money they've earned through Shark Cards.

I wish that were the case, but there are Discord servers setup where people can go to after being banned in games for cheating and have the ban removed.

PUBG has multiple servers with multiple "Support Staff" taking a payment to remove bans.

It has been claimed that some developers are also "White Listing" some "Top Streamers" and "Pro" players so that they can continue to play whilst cheating to attract new players.

Personally I have not seen any proof of this other than at a PUBG tournament where a "Pro" player tried to install a cheat and got caught, but instead of being banned from the game etc all that happened was he was banned from Tournaments.

The beauty of PC is it's a fairly open platform, however that is also it's biggest downfall when it comes to gaming.

Whilst cheats do exist for Consoles, they are few and far between and I would happily switch to console to avoid cheaters but the problem is in Destiny 2 and PUBG you cannot use a K&M without an adaptor, which doesn't always work properly.

Then there is Elite Dangerous where I cannot use my Hotas because Frontier refuse to allow any Hotas to work, other than the one they have in my oppinion had a kickback to allow work which is the Thrustmaster one.

One of the only ways that Cheating is going to be reduced on PC is to lock windows down when you launch a game and have it force everything that is not required or cleared to close, but then PC gamers will complain.

Dicehunter · #7 25-04-21, 01:53 PM

I hope this has a decent single player campaign, BF3 and 4 were damn good when it came to the single player campaign, 1 and V were kinda crap for the single player portion.

Dawelio · #8 25-04-21, 04:15 PM

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I hope this has a decent single player campaign, BF3 and 4 were damn good when it came to the single player campaign, 1 and V were kinda crap for the single player portion.

Bf3 is my all time favourite game, still play it till this day! 4 I personally thought they ruined a bit with the mechanics, how the soldier moved, how you would shoot and get shot. Just seemed too unnatural and a bit uncomfortable for me personally, especially coming from Bf3. Although it had some great visuals, just like it's predecessor.

Haven't played any Bf games since those though, but own them though. So here's hoping that Bf6 (?) will be back to those roots.

AngryGoldfish · #9 25-04-21, 06:03 PM

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I wish that were the case, but there are Discord servers setup where people can go to after being banned in games for cheating and have the ban removed.

PUBG has multiple servers with multiple "Support Staff" taking a payment to remove bans.

It has been claimed that some developers are also "White Listing" some "Top Streamers" and "Pro" players so that they can continue to play whilst cheating to attract new players.

Personally I have not seen any proof of this other than at a PUBG tournament where a "Pro" player tried to install a cheat and got caught, but instead of being banned from the game etc all that happened was he was banned from Tournaments.

The beauty of PC is it's a fairly open platform, however that is also it's biggest downfall when it comes to gaming.

Whilst cheats do exist for Consoles, they are few and far between and I would happily switch to console to avoid cheaters but the problem is in Destiny 2 and PUBG you cannot use a K&M without an adaptor, which doesn't always work properly.

Then there is Elite Dangerous where I cannot use my Hotas because Frontier refuse to allow any Hotas to work, other than the one they have in my oppinion had a kickback to allow work which is the Thrustmaster one.

One of the only ways that Cheating is going to be reduced on PC is to lock windows down when you launch a game and have it force everything that is not required or cleared to close, but then PC gamers will complain.

Wow, that's crazy.

Is that actually a real tactic that game developers are using though or is it just one game seeing some shady under the table bribery?

tgrech · #10 25-04-21, 08:11 PM

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Wow, that's crazy.

Is that actually a real tactic that game developers are using though or is it just one game seeing some shady under the table bribery?

Support staff likely have no relation/interaction/awareness of developers or anything like that, probably all random contractors hired online.