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Old 22-04-19, 02:32 PM
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GPD are switching to AMD in their popular handheld gaming console style(Clamshell/DS like) PC line(Win line, this is the Win Max model), using the same Ryzen V1605B SoC as the Smach Z, it's essentially the embedded version of the R5 2500U from what I can see(4C/8T, 3.6Ghz max boost with Vega8 graphics, 12-25W configurable TDP)

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/am...max,39127.html

EDIT: Also Ryzen 3200G has reportedly been de-lidded and seems to confirm previous information that they are Zen+/12nm versions of the 2000G chips (https://www.techpowerup.com/254804/a...-and-de-lidded)

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Old 23-04-19, 11:04 AM
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Did anyone see that Tesla has entered the chip market last night?(Jim Keller and Pete Bannon are behind this possible little masterpiece of a chip) A 230mm^2 piece of silicon manufactured by Samsung that Musk claims to be "The best chip ever built", Tesla famously dropped NVidia a year or so back because they didn't have any hardware in market that could provide Full Self Driving in Tesla's required timeframes. Not only does the new Tesla FSDC seem to significantly outperform the NVidia Xavier hardware originally intended for the job, but NVidia's rebuttal this morning that they *do* have hardware capable really proved Tesla's point, the only thing they have comparable to Tesla's chip(Which has been shipping for around a month) is a device that consumes 4 times the power with only x2 the theoretical max performance and isn't ready for mass market.

Not sure what's more surprising, the fact Musk stuck to the timeline outlined 6 months ago or the fact they've actually come out all guns blazing and put current CPU/GPU manufacturers to shame in terms of perf/watt & safety, really it's the stackk built on top of it that will decide this chips future, but that's looking quite favourable compared to the stack NVidia not long ago infamously "ripped" from an Intel open source project.
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Old 23-04-19, 11:15 AM
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Did anyone see that Tesla has entered the chip market last night? A 230mm^2 piece of silicon manufactured by Samsung that Musk claims to be "The best chip ever built", Tesla famously dropped NVidia a year or so back because they didn't have any hardware in market that could provide Full Self Driving in Tesla's required timeframes. Not only does the new Tesla FSDC seem to significantly outperform the NVidia Xavier hardware originally intended for the job, but NVidia's rebuttal this morning that they *do* have hardware capable really proved Tesla's point, the only thing they have comparable to Tesla's chip(Which has been shipping for around a month) is a device that consumes 4 times the power with only x2 the theoretical max performance and isn't ready for mass market.

Not sure what's more surprising, the fact Musk stuck to the timeline outlined 6 months ago or the fact they've actually come out all guns blazing and put current CPU/GPU manufacturers to shame in terms of perf/watt & safety.
That is why they hired Jim Keller. Tesla already dropped Nvidia from their MCS. But now they don't need them for the self driving chips either.
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Grab a nice dose of salt because an alleged Intel roadmap has been leaked.
No 10nm until at least 2021, even then, it will only be on low power SKUs -<15W TDP- so higher end parts won't see it until 2022 at best.
https://wccftech.com/intel-desktop-m...ke-tiger-lake/
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I found this in the salt cabinet already:
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us...-3-20-ghz.html
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I found this in the salt cabinet already:
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us...-3-20-ghz.html
Haha. The "We are totally shipping 10nm in low volumes" chip. Oh Intel...

This makes 14nm's delay seem like nothing.
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Haha. The "We are totally shipping 10nm in low volumes" chip. Oh Intel...

This makes 14nm's delay seem like nothing.
Design before etching: 8 core 16 thread 5.2GHz CPU with iGPU.


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To be fair, Charlie Demerjan over at Semiaccurate has been saying Intel's 10nm was a broken mess since about 2015 and he seems to have hit the nail on the head consistently over these years with its progress. Going from all of his leaks that wccftech article seems quite realistic. Sounds like they essentially had to go back to the drawing board in 2018 to fix the yield issues and more or less create a new less ambitious node entirely for performance parts.
https://semiaccurate.com/?s=10nm

Also of course, back when Intel announced 14nm+ or whatever they basically said in no uncertain terms that initial generations of 10nm would be much slower than mature 14nm. And the fact Coffee Lake was never meant to exist.

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“We hear that internally Intel is quite worried about making the launch of Cannon even though it is still about a year away. This is no ordinary early silicon issue, it is a serious and unexpected problem. Coffee lake being added at the last minute between Kaby and Cannon should shed some light on the depths of Intel’s 10nm woes, things are a mess. More when we get it, but for now, not a merry Christmas for those singing from hymnals D1C and D1D.” -SemiAccurate Dec 22, 2016
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To be fair, Charlie Demerjan over at Semiaccurate has been saying Intel's 10nm was a broken mess since about 2015 and he seems to have hit the nail on the head consistently over these years with its progress. Going from all of his leaks that wccftech article seems quite realistic. Sounds like they essentially had to go back to the drawing board in 2018 to fix the yield issues and more or less create a new less ambitious node entirely for performance parts.
https://semiaccurate.com/?s=10nm

Also of course, back when Intel announced 14nm+ or whatever they basically said in no uncertain terms that initial generations of 10nm would be much slower than mature 14nm. And the fact Coffee Lake was never meant to exist.
I'd go as far as saying that kaby Lake wasn't meant to exist. That was when they switched from Tick Tock to PAO (Process, Architecture, Optimisation).
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Old Yesterday, 11:09 AM
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Yeah to be honest even if this leaked roadmap is accurate with Intel over the last few years that doesn't seem to mean much because to be frank they have had no idea what their roadmap will have to look like after the competition moves.

10nm was originally meant to roll out in 2015 going from their roadmaps before then.
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