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Old 13-04-17, 11:12 AM
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Really want to switch from this 6700k to a R5 1600 setup. But I think I should wait till Zen2(or whatever ends up being called). Think I should focus on Vega first
Get a 1700. Seriously it's the best bargain and the most forward looking of the entire Zen range IMO. It's not worth paying loads for an 8 core yet unless you encode or smash benchmarks. However, like the 2500k it's the enthusiast's choice IMO. Well worth the extra beans.

Zen 2 will likely offer higher clocks, which would be nice of course.

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Old 13-04-17, 03:38 PM
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Get a 1700. Seriously it's the best bargain and the most forward looking of the entire Zen range IMO. It's not worth paying loads for an 8 core yet unless you encode or smash benchmarks. However, like the 2500k it's the enthusiast's choice IMO. Well worth the extra beans.

Zen 2 will likely offer higher clocks, which would be nice of course.
Don't need the cores. 1600 Is the next best buy of the Ryzen lineup. I won't switch though. Rather have Vega and Ryzen 2. Also, only enough money for one or the other, and playing at 1440p, GPU is more important
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Old 13-04-17, 06:18 PM
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Nice nice, however the prices are sh*t in Greece... 200 euros for 1400
I have hope however, that the ryzen 3 will be within my budget, I'm planning to get a ryzen 3 with an a320 motherboard should fit my budget..

Seeing improvements made overtime makes me really hopeful
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Old 13-04-17, 06:22 PM
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Am i the only one being disappointed about the ryzen 5's???

I was really hoping for higher clocks to put them in front in gaming
I see no point in upgrading from my 4790k :/
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Why did people expect higher clocks? Most of us knew that wasn't going to be the case anyway. AMD never said that, and it's a silly assumption to make.
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Old 13-04-17, 06:46 PM
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Why did people expect higher clocks? Most of us knew that wasn't going to be the case anyway. AMD never said that, and it's a silly assumption to make.
Hoping isn't the same as expecting And why not hope?
Intel have higher clocks in the "gaming segment", why shouldn't AMD do the same to try and beat Intel?
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Old 13-04-17, 06:53 PM
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Simple: higher clocks aren't needed. Don't be fooled by watching too many benchmark vids dude. One of the only review sites I trust did a YT video on it (Level1Techs). They very recently did a double-blind test with 4 systems, 2 Intel and 2 Ryzen, testing 4 different games (Overwatch, Doom, Fallout 4, and GTA 5). They couldn't see ANY difference in actual gameplay. You can go overboard watching graphs and benching, and that doesn't tell the whole story.

Besides, Ryzen DOES beat Intel in a LOT of areas, most notably price and multi-core performance. And the performance IS there. But you need to realize that this is a new platform, and you'll need to toy with it a bit on the memory side.
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Old 13-04-17, 07:13 PM
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Yeah people are whining and moaning about gaming performance at 1080p.
People need to realize, who in there right mind games at 1080p with a 1080 or a 1080ti? These benchmarks you see showcasing Ryzen in a bad light, are worst case scenario. If someone is going at 1080p with a 1080/ti, they 100% won't notice in way the difference in gameplay. 144fps vs 170 or whatever you can find, won't make a damn bit of difference.

Most up to date people are rocking rx400 cards or a GTX 1060 and lower and the majority of people are rocking older hardware. These cards are not enough to make a Ryzen struggle. A 1070 won't make Ryzen struggle either. Once you hit 1080 performance, you get to a point where it doesn't matter anymore, and you should be on at least 1440p, and as we all know, you become GPU limited.
It's really not a bad deal. Especially if you are GPU limited, you can save a ton of money on Ryzen. You can get a Ryzen 1600 and a board for the cost of a 7700k alone! And barely be behind it. If you are building a new system, all that money you save from not buying that Intel board, is enough to make you go from a rx480/GTX 1060 upto a GTX 1070. And guess what? That's a bigger performance increase than a 1600->7700k.
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Old 13-04-17, 07:21 PM
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Yeah people are whining and moaning about gaming performance at 1080p.
People need to realize, who in there right mind games at 1080p with a 1080 or a 1080ti? These benchmarks you see showcasing Ryzen in a bad light, are worst case scenario. If someone is going at 1080p with a 1080/ti, they 100% won't notice in way the difference in gameplay. 144fps vs 170 or whatever you can find, won't make a damn bit of difference.

Most up to date people are rocking rx400 cards or a GTX 1060 and lower and the majority of people are rocking older hardware. These cards are not enough to make a Ryzen struggle. A 1070 won't make Ryzen struggle either. Once you hit 1080 performance, you get to a point where it doesn't matter anymore, and you should be on at least 1440p, and as we all know, you become GPU limited.
It's really not a bad deal. Especially if you are GPU limited, you can save a ton of money on Ryzen. You can get a Ryzen 1600 and a board for the cost of a 7700k alone! And barely be behind it. If you are building a new system, all that money you save from not buying that Intel board, is enough to make you go from a rx480/GTX 1060 upto a GTX 1070. And guess what? That's a bigger performance increase than a 1600->7700k.
Blunty has done some tests with the 1600x and 1500x with a 1060 and besides streaming with the 1500 gaming is fine streaming the 1600x is better
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Blunty has done some tests with the 1600x and 1500x with a 1060 and besides streaming with the 1500 gaming is fine streaming the 1600x is better
Yeah the quad core Ryzen stuff imo completely owns the market against anything less than a 7600k. Barely behind in single thread, but way way over it in multi threaded stuff. Much better value. Ryzen 3 will be amazing budget CPUs.
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