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Old 28-03-17, 09:05 PM
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I am sorry. I didn't formulate sentence well. I should have added "... offset on X processors". But they should have left all of them without offset.
It's okay.
I do agree. It's pretty damn stupid. I wish they would have a microcode update to address this

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Old 28-03-17, 09:44 PM
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YouTubers have to start somewhere. Thanks, mate!
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Old 28-03-17, 11:21 PM
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So, this was an interesting review. I already have my 1700, but waiting on my AM4 bracket to get my AIO on there.

Currently I have a stable 3.75 MHz OC on there with the stock cooler and decent enough temps. But I'm looking forward to more overclocking testing once I have a decent cooler. The overclocking guide you promised (tinytomlogan) in the review video will be much appreciated.

I am looking forward to more motherboard reviews though. I went with a B350 Gigabyte Gaming 3. For several reasons, not least of which was it was available. But also because I fully intend to stick with AM4 for several iterations. Whilst the CH6 looks to be one of the best board on the market just now, if not the best, Ryzen is due an APU further in it's life-cycle. Which I intend to go for. But then I'll need onboard video outs on the motherboard, which are missing from the CH6. So fully intend to upgrade the motherboard later.

Anyway, the point is, an overclocking guide for the 1700 on B350 boards would be very welcome. Might help me try and maximise my current set-up.
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Old 29-03-17, 03:40 AM
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It's okay.
I wish they would have a microcode update to address this
I don't know can BIOS microcode help because CPU is lying to itself about the temperature. BIOS can report lower temps so the fans don't go berserk, but internal CPU management won't be affected until this feature is disabled in the core. Some more experienced and knowledgeable members can probably give us further information, because my knowledge doesn't go that deep.
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Old 29-03-17, 04:25 AM
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I don't know can BIOS microcode help because CPU is lying to itself about the temperature. BIOS can report lower temps so the fans don't go berserk, but internal CPU management won't be affected until this feature is disabled in the core. Some more experienced and knowledgeable members can probably give us further information, because my knowledge doesn't go that deep.
A CPU microcode can fix it. It's like firmware for a CPU. Except much more complicated than that since it's a CPU.
It's up to them to decide if they want to or not
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Old 29-03-17, 09:08 AM
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Great review and interesting to see that the 1700 and 1800x are pretty much tied together with the OC.

With the 1700 being lower TDP out of the box I'm curious if the power usage for the 1700 OC and the 1800X OC and the voltages for the OC's are similar as well. You'd start to think that the 1700 is just an 1800X with drivers telling BIOS to run it slower.
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Old 29-03-17, 09:39 AM
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Ryzen @ 3600Mhz

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Old 29-03-17, 09:55 AM
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I am starting to think that AMD on purpose restrained 1800x because it is not finished, and platform for it is not nearly complete. Unleashing full power probably would do more harm than good, with all kinds of instability issues. But they desperately needed to release something.

The fact is that this is a totally new technology, and is in it's infancy. It is possible that we are seeing only the tip of the iceberg. Ryzen 2.0 would probably be the true step up.
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Running the R7 1700 @ 3800 with 1.2v. Solid chip and with a H110i GT strapped to it all l can say is happy days, plenty of tweaking ahead indeed.
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As promised, before I start hitting the wine and forget:

Thanks! I watched it last night as AMD actually posted it on their FB feed just before I went to sleep. Some in the comments were shouting how the numbers don't match with other people, but that's to be expected. It's something I'm seeing more of. Whenever a benchmark doesn't match with their favourite review sites they immediately claim it is fake. That would be somewhat fair enough if it were just one review out of one hundred that saw different results—favourable for AMD results—but more and more reviewers are starting to show Ryzen closing the gap.
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