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Old 26-05-20, 10:02 AM
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AMD Ryzen 3900XT, 3800XT and 3600XT Specs Leak

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Read more about AMD's rumoured Ryzen 3900XT, 3800XT and 3600XT processors.

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Old 26-05-20, 11:41 PM
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Just speculating here.
If i remember correctly the 3950X uses some of the best binned chiplets.
Now that initial demand for the 3950X would have fallen off after launch and yields have improved, releasing these might just be a case of, because we can. Also it creates more price brackets that AMD can compete in etc.
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Old 27-05-20, 01:06 AM
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This is a media circus release just to get attention away from Intel only news. Intel did the same with 9900KS.

3950X was always in a tough spot. It is expensive enough that mainstream buyers don't consider it. The performance and price gap between 3950X and 3960X makes it compete in a different league. If I was building a workstation for around the money you will need for the 3950X system I would go Intel. 10920X/10940X are close enough and it gives you 48 PCI-E lanes. Which are very important for workstations. And you basically do very little rendering on CPU so that it beats Intel in rendering tasks doesn't matter.

It is possible that AMD wanted to reuse those binned chips in the market category that actually sells a lot of units.
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Old 27-05-20, 10:08 AM
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This is a media circus release just to get attention away from Intel only news. Intel did the same with 9900KS.

3950X was always in a tough spot. It is expensive enough that mainstream buyers don't consider it. The performance and price gap between 3950X and 3960X makes it compete in a different league. If I was building a workstation for around the money you will need for the 3950X system I would go Intel. 10920X/10940X are close enough and it gives you 48 PCI-E lanes. Which are very important for workstations. And you basically do very little rendering on CPU so that it beats Intel in rendering tasks doesn't matter.

It is possible that AMD wanted to reuse those binned chips in the market category that actually sells a lot of units.
According to Amazon and Mindfactory the 3950X has actually been a hot seller given its price(Outselling all but two Intel processors for Mindfactory, making it one of the largest earning CPUs sold if you look at their revenue figures). Both platforms are matched on end PCIe bandwidth, but I guess you can buy a 3950X + mobo for like 30% less money than a 10920X + Motherboard, with 30% more cores.

Of course, this isn't too surprising given AMD are outselling Intel generally by like >500%.
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Old 27-05-20, 11:02 AM
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According to Amazon and Mindfactory the 3950X has actually been a hot seller given its price(Outselling all but two Intel processors for Mindfactory, making it one of the largest earning CPUs sold if you look at their revenue figures). Both platforms are matched on end PCIe bandwidth, but I guess you can buy a 3950X + mobo for like 30% less money than a 10920X + Motherboard, with 30% more cores.

Of course, this isn't too surprising given AMD are outselling Intel generally by like >500%.
3950X is an amazing CPU there is no doubt about that. Even though theoretical bandwidth at the end might be the same, there are not many PCI-E Gen 4 devices. 48 PCI-E Gen 3 lanes are still much more than 20 Gen4 in the real world. Also I would rather go for Samsung 970 Pro over any current Gen 4 NVME for the same price.

On the very high and very low-end AMD has no competition. But right around that 3950X money you get much more with Intel X299.
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But right around that 3950X money you get much more with Intel X299.
Can you practically though? Can you actually get any HEDT from Intel at all for the same platform cost? Maybe if you ignore the motherboards, but factoring motherboard cost you can get a 3950X setup with a decent motherboard for less than a 10-core 10900X with the cheapest X299 motherboard available here in the UK.

From a technical perspective Intel have some great CPUs here, but their pricing means they're getting pummelled into irrelevance on the market.
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Old 27-05-20, 12:10 PM
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Can you practically though? Can you actually get any HEDT from Intel at all for the same platform cost? Maybe if you ignore the motherboards, but factoring motherboard cost you can get a 3950X setup with a decent motherboard for less than a 10-core 10900K with the cheapest X299 motherboard available here in the UK.

From a technical perspective Intel have some great CPUs here, but their pricing means they're getting pummelled into irrelevance on the market.
It would be a bit more, but if you need a lot of connectivity (dual GPU, capture cards, nvme storage) X299 is still a better overall workstation than X570.
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I usually use a forum to gauge how many of something sells. Like I am the only one here stupid enough to have bought a 2080Ti Kingpin, for example.

However, loads of us have 3950x. It's the new HEDT chip now.
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Old 27-05-20, 02:13 PM
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However, loads of us have 3950x. It's the new HEDT chip now.
In the end, it only matters what you are doing. Long has gone the time when 6950X was one CPU to rule them all. I, for example, use my PC for Music production, Gaming, Photoshop, and I need Thunderbolt. In all those tasks Intel is much better. I did consider AMD but it just doesn't tick my boxes. Many of my friends bought Ryzen computers on my recommendation and they are extremely happy.
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In the end, it only matters what you are doing.
Nah mate it's all about what's the hottest new thing. :P
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