AMD Ryzen 3 3100 and Ryzen 3 3300X Review

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Seems to be a metric ton of these on Ebay, and the same amount of idiots prepared to buy them.
 
Hard to see the point of these CPUs with the decent amount of 1st gen 6 and 8 core Ryzens in the 2nd hand market. Heck, my home server has a 1600X I paid 80 euros for almost a year ago.
 
looz said:
Hard to see the point of these CPUs with the decent amount of 1st gen 6 and 8 core Ryzens in the 2nd hand market. Heck, my home server has a 1600X I paid 80 euros for almost a year ago.
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A lot of people don't want to buy second-hand CPUs. On top of that, Zen 2 is a much better gaming architecture than Zen and Zen+, and the out of the box clocks will make this a better all-rounder than the Ryzen 5 1600
 
looz said:
Hard to see the point of these CPUs with the decent amount of 1st gen 6 and 8 core Ryzens in the 2nd hand market. Heck, my home server has a 1600X I paid 80 euros for almost a year ago.
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Because these have better IPC, so for "right now" gaming they are often going to be faster dude.

I know what you mean though. I wouldn't personally choose one of these, but they are going to be used a lot. Remember, when I say "gaming" I actually refer to "Stupid trendy games that are crap but played by lots of young people". In which case? these CPUs are more than enough.

Which is good, because it brings the system prices down. It should now be possible to build a decent gaming rig for under £500.
 
These look amazing for gamers, but yeah can currently get brand new both a 1600AF and B450 motherboard for under £150, it's a tighter offer for those of us just looking for a lockdown work upgrade for now.
 
tgrech said:
These look amazing for gamers, but yeah can currently get brand new both a 1600AF and B450 motherboard for under £150, it's a tighter offer for those of us just looking for a lockdown work upgrade for now.
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Yeah, but if you can wait for B550, you will have another generation of upgrade room. B450 won't support Zen 3.
 
WYP said:
Yeah, but if you can wait for B550, you will have another generation of upgrade room. B450 won't support Zen 3.
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To be honest, since some contracts are just paused, once business is back up and running fully again I'll probably be looking to shift more towards a 12-core by the time the 4000 series is out, so I'll probably just end up swapping both together, I don't much mind a board swap and it makes selling easier.

Even so, if that a definite or are they just covering their backs for the boards with 8MB UEFI's? The graph AMD provided also claims 300 series boards don't support 3000 series motherboards, but of course that's usually dependant on the UEFI size.
 
tgrech said:
To be honest, since some contracts are just paused, once business is back up and running fully again I'll probably be looking to shift more towards a 12-core by the time the 4000 series is out, so I'll probably just end up swapping both together, I don't much mind a board swap and it makes selling easier.

Even so, if that a definite or are they just covering their backs for the boards with 8MB UEFI's? The graph AMD provided also claims 300 series boards don't support 3000 series motherboards, but of course that's usually dependant on the UEFI size.
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That's the thing. Who knows. Not many B450 boards use the larger BIOS files, so even if some boards did deliver Zen 3 support, it would only be a minority of motherboards.

I did mention that in my article on this topic, but B450 motherboards just don't offer any absolutes when it comes to Zen 3 support. Maybe boards like the MSI B450 Max can, but I doubt many others will.

AMD could just straight up not let motherboard manufacturers do that either. AMD won't want a repeat of 300/400 series PCIe 4.0 support confusion.
 
tgrech said:
These look amazing for gamers, but yeah can currently get brand new both a 1600AF and B450 motherboard for under £150, it's a tighter offer for those of us just looking for a lockdown work upgrade for now.
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I've been looking for a 1600AF here in the US, but all I've seen are ones with a high markup, like $140+.
 
I built a PC for a friend two or so years ago. I wanted him to put his money towards a 1600 or at least a 1500 and then a better GPU. But no, he wouldn't have it. He wanted an Intel CPU. So I bought him one within his budget and built the crummy system.

If he asked me to build him a system today and insisted on an Intel CPU... we'd no longer be friends.

xD
 
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